Shahbag Projonmo Chattor

[cricket_pagol]

Originally Posted by CricketPagolChele
This hartal was called because of some "non communal" members/comrades of Shahbag continuously derespecting Allah and our Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), and BNP is supporting hartal for that cause. Why you have to act like a blind while your eyes are perfectly working?
This hartal was called by Islamist Parties, and sure not all Istalmist parties are bad as Jamat/shibir. Or is just "Islam" is there , they are bound to be bad?

First the cause of the hartal is just made up.

Second, don't support hartal and violence, it is bad for our politics, and bad for our country.

[firstlane]

Funny how people are complaining that protesters are not talking about govt corruptions. The same people were blaming the protesters for trying to divert the main cause. Protesters surely know that if they include the corruption issue they will be attacked by the govt and the original demand will never be fulfilled. No one thinks AL is innocent. So, don't worry. People can't forget about all those killings, corruptions, scandals during AL 's time. People know AL tries to use 71 for their political benefit and people don't like it. You are worried that AL is benefiting from this protest. As I said numerous times, it doesn't bother me at all as it wouldn't bother me if BNP benefited from it as well. I am sure protesters will welcome anyone who joins their cause. My personal opinion is people are gaining strength from this protest. it has gave them belief that they belong and together they can make changes. This is just the beginning. Once this issue is resolved people will turn their attention to corruption and other issues. Until then you sit on the fences.

Some of you might not agree with the other agendas brought up by the protesters but most people see them as relevant. That's why you see the numbers are increasing everyday home and abroad. Not all the protesters are Hindus, communists or atheists. In fact, most of them are moderate Muslims. You might not recognise them as proper Muslims like the Paks didnt but they are. They are also sane enough to understand religion based politics lead to extremism as it did in 1971. When was the last time you noticed parents bring their toddlers to a protest, allow the teens to take streets? This protest is spontaneous and will soon become a movement. The longer it goes the more determined people will become for success. And history says people always got what they wanted regardless who it benefited.

[roman]

Originally Posted by BANFAN
please don't tell all the truth in one day...AL can't tolerate truth... Ya...AL actually was the first party in BD to have political alliance with Jamaat...it's always hard to forget first love.... and if first love betrays, it's hard to accept...even some people won't mind to kill or be killed in revenge ... So it's nothing about Razakar for AL...if they had any issue it would have been addressed long before and there would be no alliance with Jamaat....

Bhai, emon pishach er moto shotto kotha shob shomoy bolte nei. Amar deel e aghaat laage

[FaHiMa]

Not sure if it's been posted here already. But it's beautifully done, so no harm in watching it a second time

Bangladesh: Of Youth, Blood & Triumph from Shouhardo on Vimeo.

[CricketPagolChele]

Originally Posted by cricket_pagol
First the cause of the hartal is just made up.

Second, don't support hartal and violence, it is bad for our politics, and bad for our country.

BNP can never beat BAL in calling hartal. BNP its self didnt call this hartal. Hartal is bad only if called by other than BAL.

[Kana-Baba]

Originally Posted by zsayeed
What do Islamic Scholars think of this?
I am no scholar.


- Nouman Ali

please provide the link of the video here.

[zsayeed]

Originally Posted by Kana-Baba
please provide the link of the video here.

It is available at the end of the video - but here it is as well : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6zuKbBlmRo

[zsayeed]

Amader desher roptonikrito rajakar er kotha:
Mueen Uddin: The Mass Murderer at the Heart of Britain’s Islamist Establishment

ebong

Lutfur Rahman Spends £100,000 On Harassing Whistleblowing Councillor

[PoorFan]

Originally Posted by Matribhasha
You were right until the last sentence. Then your enthusiasm got the better of you. You are either lying or you are brain washed.

East Pakistan was rooting for Sheikh Mujib and his call for Independence and liberation from Pakistani janwars. His political party AL was a mechanism to keep the fight at a political level as well. The last thing the people espoused was this thing called secularism you call, and also, certainly not any moulobadi brand. Get a grip.

Off topic discussion again, but since some of you making comments on this issue ..., so why not hear a bit more? Can you explain [above bold part] bit more with historical events like '69 election, before and after? Let us know what kind of historical proof you have that people didnt espoused secularism.

[Banglatiger84]

Asif Mohiuddin, a co-ordinator of the bloggers' network that called for the Shahbag protests, is keen to point out the group's struggle did not start with Shahbag. "We have been waging war on religious fundamentalists on the blogs for years," he said. "Shahbag has been successful because people are so outraged by the war crimes."

[Electrequiem]

Congratulations, Bangladeshis.

You have successfully began to derail this movement with your petty, petulant, and partisan bickering.

[cricket_pagol]

Originally Posted by CricketPagolChele
BNP can never beat BAL in calling hartal. BNP its self didnt call this hartal. Hartal is bad only if called by other than BAL.

Don't take sides, everybody should stop calling hartal when they are in opposition. When in power, it is easy to ask the opposition to stop calling hartal. Both AL and BNP are equally guilt in sticking to the culture of hartal.

[Banglatiger84]

Originally Posted by cricket_pagol
Don't take sides, everybody should stop calling hartal when they are in opposition. When in power, it is easy to ask the opposition to stop calling hartal. Both AL and BNP are equally guilt in sticking to the culture of hartal.

The onus is on one of the sides to declare, when they are in opposition, that they wont enforce violent hartals.

Otherwise the cycle will continue. Some AL Supporters want JI banned because they are shocked at their violence in hartals, conveniently forgetting their own hartals in 2005-6.

If BNP come to power, they too will forget their hartals now and act "shocked" that hartals can be so violent.

[cricket_pagol]

I just realized on thing, both sides are using the argument of guilt by association.

Jamaat is calling the shabag movement "nastik movement", based on one person's blog comment. Whereas, the leadership at Shabag wants to ban Jamaat because of some of their leaders are rajakars.

[BANFAN]

Originally Posted by Electrequiem
Congratulations, Bangladeshis.

You have successfully began to derail this movement with your petty, petulant, and partisan bickering.

One Banglacricket thread won't derail a movement if that's based on honest and unbiased cause. If that's not derailed by the invisible force in Shahbag itself, by agendas like "Arrest him, Jail him kill him" kind of Awami political agenda.....under the cover of punishment to the war criminals. So relax...it won't get derailed until it's derailed at the root...

[cricket_pagol]

Originally Posted by Banglatiger84
The onus is on one of the sides to declare, when they are in opposition, that they wont enforce violent hartals.

Otherwise the cycle will continue. Some AL Supporters want JI banned because they are shocked at their violence in hartals, conveniently forgetting their own hartals in 2005-6.

If BNP come to power, they too will forget their hartals now and act "shocked" that hartals can be so violent.

You are right, there is a lot of hypocrisy in this from both side. I remember the violence in 2006. I was visiting Dhaka at that point, everybody was feeling so helpless and clueless, nobody had any idea about were the country was heading. Since our leaders cannot compromise, we are headed for a similar situation. I feel that the violence is getting worse in each election cycle, because this time the police force is under strong attack compared to previous incidents.

Regarding hartals, the opposition party has to make the first move.

[zsayeed]

The Guardian

Age-old violence and recriminations still provide the fuel for Bangladesh spring
Gulf widens between those who think Shahbag Square rallies are righting historical wrong and those who see them as anti-Islam

and let me add - gulf between Country & BNP widening as well.

[zsayeed]

A prosecution witness in a war crimes case against BNP lawmaker Salauddin Quader Chowdhury was found dead on Friday night, 22 hours after he went missing.

However, Abdul Latif, officer-in-charge of Khulshi Police Station, told The Daily Star that they were chasing leads to the death.

However, Junu's daughter Fahima said doctors at the CMCH told them that a veiled woman brought her father's body to the hospital and left in a hurry.

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesig...php?nid=270263

[firstlane]

আনু মুহাম্মদ | তারিখ: ২৪-০২-২০১৩


১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধাপরাধীদের বর্বরতা তো মাত্র ৪২ বছরের আগের ব্যাপার, ২৫০ বছর আগের মীরজাফর তো এখনো জীবন্ত। মীরজাফরের বিচার হয়নি, হয়তো সে জন্যই তার প্রতি ঘৃণা প্রতিমুহূর্তে পুনরুৎপাদিত হচ্ছে, কেউ জাতীয় স্বার্থবিরোধী ভূমিকায় অবতীর্ণ হলে মানুষ খুব সহজেই তাকে বুঝছে মীরজাফর হিসেবে। এখন রাজাকার শব্দটিও তেমন। যারাই দেশ ও দেশের মানুষের বিপক্ষে দাঁড়াবে, তার নামের সঙ্গেই এখন যুক্ত হবে রাজাকার, কিংবা নব্য রাজাকার। এভাবেই মানুষ তার শত্রু-মিত্র শনাক্ত করে, পরম্পরায় সামষ্টিক চেতনা প্রবাহিত হয়। হাজার বছর আগেরও অনেক বেদনা বা লড়াইয়ের স্মৃতি মিথ আকারে মানুষকে কাঁদায়, আবার প্রেরণাও জোগায়।
ইতিহাসের দায় থেকে মানুষের মুক্তি নেই। ১৯৭১ সালে পাকিস্তানি বাহিনী আর তার দেশি সহযোগীদের গণহত্যা, ধর্ষণ ও নির্যাতনের অসংখ্য ঘটনায় প্রায় সব অঞ্চলের মানুষের মধ্যে ক্ষত আছে। নীরবতা, প্রতারণা বা বিশ্বাসঘাতকতায় এগুলো ঢেকে রাখা যায় না, তা অপেক্ষা করে ঠিক মুহূর্তের। প্রজন্মের পর প্রজন্ম সামষ্টিক স্মৃতি বেয়ে চলে। সময়ের ব্যর্থতায় প্রবল প্রতাপে খুনি-ধর্ষকেরা ঘুরে বেড়াতে পারে, কিন্তু তাতে ইতিহাস মুছে যায় না।

তরুণ বিদ্রোহ যে বিচার দাবিতে সারা দেশকে জাগিয়ে তুলেছে, তা ৪২ বছর পর হঠাৎ হয়নি। এরও একটা ধারাবাহিক ইতিহাস আছে, আছে একদিকে জনগণের লড়াই, বিশ্বাসভঙ্গ আর হতাশার, অন্যদিকে প্রধান রাজনৈতিক দলগুলোর বিশ্বাসঘাতকতা আর আঁতাতের ইতিহাস। কিন্তু সব সময়ই ক্ষুদ্র-বৃহৎ চেষ্টা অব্যাহত ছিল (এ বিষয়ে আমার লেখা ‘যুদ্ধাপরাধীর বিচার...’, প্রথম আলো, ৭ জানুয়ারি, ২০১৩)। এসব প্রচেষ্টার কারণেই পরম্পরায় তৈরি হয়েছে যোগসূত্র।

বস্তুত তরুণদের নেতৃত্বে এই গণজাগরণ সরকার, প্রধান রাজনৈতিক দল এবং তাদের ভোটের রাজনীতির প্রতি অনাস্থারই বহিঃপ্রকাশ। দুই আশঙ্কা মানুষের মধ্যে দেয়ালে পিঠ ঠেকে যাওয়ার অনুভূতি দিয়েছে। প্রথমত, ভোটের হিসাব-নিকাশ করতে গিয়ে অতীতের মতো সরকার জামায়াতের সঙ্গে আবারও যেকোনো ধরনের আপসরফায় বা আঁতাতে চলে যেতে পারে। দ্বিতীয়ত, যদি শুধু কারাদণ্ড হয়, তাহলে সরকার পরিবর্তনে বা কোনো চাপে এরা আবার ছাড়া পেয়ে যেতে পারে।

যুদ্ধাপরাধী হিসেবে কাদের মোল্লার যাবজ্জীবন কারাদণ্ড নিয়ে তাই এত প্রতিক্রিয়া। এর কিছুদিন আগে থেকেই রহস্যজনক কিছু ঘটনা ঘটছিল। পুলিশের সঙ্গে জামায়াত-শিবিরের সংঘাত ও ফুলনিবেদন, অদ্ভুতভাবে পুলিশের মার খাওয়া, অস্ত্র ছিনতাই ইত্যাদি নিশ্চয়ই কারও কাছেই স্বাভাবিক মনে হয়নি। এর পাশাপাশি বাচ্চু রাজাকারের ফাঁসি হলো, কিন্তু বিচারের আগেই তার পালিয়ে যাওয়া নিয়ে কোনো সদুত্তর পাওয়া গেল না। এই সময়ই হঠাৎ পুলিশের ভূমিকা পাল্টে গেল, মিছিল-সভা-সমাবেশ বাড়তে থাকল, পরপর দুই দিনের হরতাল ডাকল জামায়াত। তাদের ভাঙচুর, বক্তৃতা ইত্যাদিতে অভূতপূর্ব ঔদ্ধত্য। ভোটের হিসাব-নিকাশে সরকার জামায়াতের সঙ্গে আবারও নতুন আঁতাতের পথে যাচ্ছে, এই সন্দেহ তখন চারদিকে। এরপরই জামায়াতের হরতালের মধ্যে কাদের মোল্লার বিরুদ্ধে গণহত্যাসহ অনেকগুলো অপরাধ প্রমাণিত হওয়ার পরও সর্বোচ্চ শাস্তি দেওয়া হলো না। তখনই ঘটল বিস্ফোরণ। সমাজের ভেতরে নানা সংশয় ও প্রশ্ন নিয়ে প্রতিবাদের যাত্রা শুরু করল সজাগ তরুণেরা। তৈরি হতে থাকল নতুন ইতিহাস।
http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/da...24/news/331542

A good writing.

[BANFAN]

On Wednesday, Information Minister Hasanul Haq Inu spoke of legal action against yellow journalism. He said any media will face legal action if they publish materials, which slander Prophet or criticise any religion in obscene language, quoting blogs or social networking sites like Facebook.

This is also a violation of journalistic ethics, Inu said.

The recent violence, including Friday's terror attacks on police and media people, are thought to have resulted from media propaganda by the Jamaat-e-Islami and student body Islami Chhatra Shibir.

Several national dailies have published reports on alleged blog write-ups by individuals, criticising Prophet Hazrat Mohammad (SM) and Islam. The reports angered many people and brought some people against the bloggers and activists who initiated the Shahbagh movement on February 5 calling death penalty for all war criminals

Talked strongly, acted weakly

[zsayeed]

have some fun

ছাত্র শিবিরের সিক্রেট গ্রুপের ল্যাদানি, যদি জানতো ওগো মইধ্যে দুইজন গুপ্তচর আছে তাইলে...

আজ কাদের সিদ্দিকী দিগন্ত টিভিতে ,সবার উপর দেশ টকশোতে নিজামী ও হাসিনার একটি ছবি দেখিয়েছে ।ছবিটি পুরা ফেইক ।অনুষ্টানের পিছনে কারা থাকে? তাদের এই বিষয়গুলো দেখা দরকার ।আল্লাহ ই জানে ,ঘটনাটি কতদুর গড়ায়

Mehedi Hasan Chatkhil দিগন্ত টিভির উপস্থাপক ছবিটা দেখে ব্যাপারটা বুঝতে পারে নাই!
2 hours ago via mobile · Like

Shamim Bigboss jonogon bujbe gotna sotto

Kazi Jubyer মাথা কেটে লাগানো হয়ছে... এ ধরনের নিম্নমানের এডিট করা ছবি কেমনে দেখানও হল বুজতে পারছিনা।
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https://www.facebook.com/omi.pial/po...51444131068363

[PoorFan]

I think we should stop posting random facebook or blog links, other than valid news source.

- As myself.

[zsayeed]

Originally Posted by PoorFan
I think we should stop posting random facebook or blog links, other than valid news source.

- As myself.

not random. its from omi pial - #1 on their kill list.

[Rifat]

This movement could go on for a very loooong time: years even.

[BANFAN]

Originally Posted by zsayeed
not random. its from omi pial - #1 on their kill list.

Omi Pial, himself is a random guy. We know the importance of Hasina and Khalida claiming, the opponent is trying to kill them.. How can even Omi himself be authentic about claiming himself to be #1 in hit list ... Any credible info from country's intelligence or Police or RAB ..?? Or Omi is more efficient than them to discover a hitlist...?? Picking up random conversation from random FB pages, isn't authentic at all... Even Omi himself might create and own some of those sites.... Possible??