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November 24, 2012, 03:16 PM
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You guys do keep in mind that Mushy came to bat ( in the second innings) pretty much within an hour of being on the filed for 200 overs.
Yes, that's not only just 20 overs of fielding in the third man or deep extra cover, that is 200 overs of keeping and captaining the troops. Doing that both over that extended period of time takes away much of your focus, concentration and all of that energy and stamina.
The way he got out was that a tired man, not having the right frame of mind and body to stay in, dig deep and take one painstaking single run, one at a time to rebuild on the pile of stinking mess the top 4 batsmen left the team, the top 4 who only chased few balls here and there, did not have to bowl, did not have to think who'se gotta bowl next, whose gotta stand where and how to marshall the troops.
You could have asked guys like Kallis or Dravid to come in that situation, chances are they would have failed 9/10 times.
Gilchrist had the likes Hayden and Ponting to fall back and take enough rest to rejuvenate, Dhoni has Tendu, Dravid and Laxman, hec even Ramdin have Chandu and Samuels, and who do Mushy usually have?? SN, Junaed and Nizam !!
7/10 times if you have to come to bat within an hour of being in the field for 16-20 hours on the field, you get fatigued out, which in cricketing terms can translated as bowled out or caught out.
Mushy ain't no Superman.
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November 24, 2012, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Rabz
You guys do keep in mind that Mushy came to bat ( in the second innings) pretty much within an hour of being on the filed for 200 overs.
Yes, that's not only just 20 overs of fielding in the third man or deep extra cover, that is 200 overs of keeping and captaining the troops. Doing that both over that extended period of time takes away much of your focus, concentration and all of that energy and stamina.
The way he got out was that a tired man, not having the right frame of mind and body to stay in, dig deep and take one painstaking single run, one at a time to rebuild on the pile of stinking mess the top 4 batsmen left the team, the top 4 who only chased few balls here and there, did not have to bowl, did not have to think who'se gotta bowl next, whose gotta stand where and how to marshall the troops.
You could have asked guys like Kallis or Dravid to come in that situation, chances are they would have failed 9/10 times.
Gilchrist had the likes Hayden and Ponting to fall back and take enough rest to rejuvenate, Dhoni has Tendu, Dravid and Laxman, hec even Ramdin have Chandu and Samuels, and who do Mushy usually have?? SN, Junaed and Nizam !!
7/10 times if you have to come to bat within an hour of being in the field for 16-20 hours on the field, you get fatigued out, which in cricketing terms can translated as bowled out or caught out.
Mushy ain't know Superman.
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But Rabz bhai, if he was tired than why didn't he send either Nasir or Mullah ahead of him?
i agree its never an easy job to wk/skipper for 200 overs and then come out to bat within 30 mins...kintu ektu buddi khaitaile to hoye jeto. o nijei to captain, plus wasn't scoring runs so he could have sent Riyad or nasir who is in better form and physically fitter.
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November 24, 2012, 03:31 PM
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But Rabz bhai, if he was tired than why didn't he send either Nasir or Mullah ahead of him?
i agree its never an easy job to wk/skipper for 200 overs and then come out to bat within 30 mins...kintu ektu buddi khaitaile to hoye jeto. o nijei to captain, plus wasn't scoring runs so he could have sent Riyad or nasir who is in better form and physically fitter.
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Ghaar dhore ber kore deya uchit team theke. Lojja shorom kisu ase bole to mone hoy na.
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November 24, 2012, 03:57 PM
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Ghaar dhore ber kore deya uchit team theke. Lojja shorom kisu ase bole to mone hoy na.
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To bhaijan, eije dhakka dhakki korben, onake na hoy ber korlen, to kon moharothike anben jini baire boshe achen chup chap ??
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November 24, 2012, 04:05 PM
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To bhaijan, eije dhakka dhakki korben, onake na hoy ber korlen, to kon moharothike anben jini baire boshe achen chup chap ??
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Apnee chaan amra "A" wordta boli taito? Taito? A-word shunte chaan to?
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November 24, 2012, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by nadim 98
But Rabz bhai, if he was tired than why didn't he send either Nasir or Mullah ahead of him?
i agree its never an easy job to wk/skipper for 200 overs and then come out to bat within 30 mins...kintu ektu buddi khaitaile to hoye jeto. o nijei to captain, plus wasn't scoring runs so he could have sent Riyad or nasir who is in better form and physically fitter.
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Yes, that was a bad call from him. If you can't handle it, don't take the responsibility.
But for these strategic decisions, you should have the coach and the team management to chip in with their thinking heads.
Looks like everyone was snoozing.
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November 24, 2012, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by nadim 98
But Rabz bhai, if he was tired than why didn't he send either Nasir or Mullah ahead of him?
i agree its never an easy job to wk/skipper for 200 overs and then come out to bat within 30 mins...kintu ektu buddi khaitaile to hoye jeto. o nijei to captain, plus wasn't scoring runs so he could have sent Riyad or nasir who is in better form and physically fitter.
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He was motivated and was having the feeling to get a century today, so he stepped in... but later he found, he was actually tired to play that long...so he took a wise decision to get out and send in Nasir. He is a very quick decision maker ...very few can do that.
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November 24, 2012, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Rabz
You guys do keep in mind that Mushy came to bat ( in the second innings) pretty much within an hour of being on the filed for 200 overs.
Yes, that's not only just 20 overs of fielding in the third man or deep extra cover, that is 200 overs of keeping and captaining the troops. Doing that both over that extended period of time takes away much of your focus, concentration and all of that energy and stamina.
The way he got out was that a tired man, not having the right frame of mind and body to stay in, dig deep and take one painstaking single run, one at a time to rebuild on the pile of stinking mess the top 4 batsmen left the team, the top 4 who only chased few balls here and there, did not have to bowl, did not have to think who'se gotta bowl next, whose gotta stand where and how to marshall the troops.
You could have asked guys like Kallis or Dravid to come in that situation, chances are they would have failed 9/10 times.
Gilchrist had the likes Hayden and Ponting to fall back and take enough rest to rejuvenate, Dhoni has Tendu, Dravid and Laxman, hec even Ramdin have Chandu and Samuels, and who do Mushy usually have?? SN, Junaed and Nizam !!
7/10 times if you have to come to bat within an hour of being in the field for 16-20 hours on the field, you get fatigued out, which in cricketing terms can translated as bowled out or caught out.
Mushy ain't no Superman.
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some valid points there, the moment Mushy got out the way he got out was really a shocker for me but then I started to realize and thought why on earth he did that when the entire team is collapsing front of him. Yes his out was really painful but as you said he has been standing behind the stump for two days and jumping on every singe ball in every over then not having enough physical rest coming to bat immediately was really a tired mind and a tired man act. So i myself feel bit sorry for him.
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November 25, 2012, 12:33 AM
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some valid points there, the moment Mushy got out the way he got out was really a shocker for me but then I started to realize and thought why on earth he did that when the entire team is collapsing front of him. Yes his out was really painful but as you said he has been standing behind the stump for two days and jumping on every singe ball in every over then not having enough physical rest coming to bat immediately was really a tired mind and a tired man act. So i myself feel bit sorry for him.
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Aichcha shakib ki taile mora te boisha batting kortesilo? are you trying to say bowling is less tiring than wicket keeping? He just choked.
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