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Old January 26, 2010, 12:17 AM
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Default there is still a way ASHRAFUL has a place in BD team

first drop him from the national team for 6-12 months.

let him concentrate on his bowling under a good bowling coach. he can bowl offspin, legspin, googlies, flippers, sem up. so lets him transform into a regular 10 over ODI bowler and a consistent test bowler.

then he can play as a bowling all rounder in the team and bat at 8 in tests and ODI. in ODI's may be sometime promoted in order to do some pinch hitting or using the batting powerplays.
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Old January 26, 2010, 12:56 AM
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OR...just keep him as #4 batsmen as the BC management will undoubtely prefer...seems like they never learn. if the ash-fool has an IQ of 10 then the selectors have an IQ of -10
BUT in saying that, he is still our eid master and capable as anyone getting a century. and tbh, i do not seeing imrul even getting a half century unless being dropped twice, and getting out to an ORDINARY delivery which he makes look 'unplayable'. if BC are going to preserve with ash then he needs to do bowlng practice as youve mentioned above, OR open the batting with tamim. he canot possibly do as bad as imrul....
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Old January 26, 2010, 01:06 AM
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first drop him from the national team for 6-12 months.

let him concentrate on his bowling under a good bowling coach. he can bowl offspin, legspin, googlies, flippers, sem up. so lets him transform into a regular 10 over ODI bowler and a consistent test bowler.

then he can play as a bowling all rounder in the team and bat at 8 in tests and ODI. in ODI's may be sometime promoted in order to do some pinch hitting or using the batting powerplays.

not a bad idea. i think this is brilliant. he gets wkt in regular basis, even his 3 or 4 over spell
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Old January 26, 2010, 01:11 AM
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His batting skills are not the problem and thus he does not need to change his playing role. The real problem is his BRAIN which can not be changed.
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Old January 26, 2010, 02:56 AM
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His batting skills are not the problem and thus he does not need to change his playing role. The real problem is his BRAIN which can not be changed.
may be his brain will change when he plays as a specialist bowler.

or our expectations will change as he not a front line barsman, he ill be our late order tonker
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Old January 26, 2010, 05:48 AM
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first drop him from the national team for 6-12 months.

let him concentrate on his bowling under a good bowling coach. he can bowl offspin, legspin, googlies, flippers, sem up. so lets him transform into a regular 10 over ODI bowler and a consistent test bowler.

then he can play as a bowling all rounder in the team and bat at 8 in tests and ODI. in ODI's may be sometime promoted in order to do some pinch hitting or using the batting powerplays.
LOL not a bad idea.

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Old January 26, 2010, 05:49 AM
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Halay batting korte pare na abar bowling korte aiche...bat kor hala!

Kalke 100 na maarley gali ektao mukhe thekbe na!
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Old January 26, 2010, 06:12 AM
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Halay batting korte pare na abar bowling korte aiche...bat kor hala!

Kalke 100 na maarley gali ektao mukhe thekbe na!
jay hala batting kortay parayna bolay monay korayn shayi halar kasay 100 asha korayn kaymnay?? aida kaymon bichar?
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Old January 26, 2010, 06:16 AM
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jay hala batting kortay parayna bolay monay korayn shayi halar kasay 100 asha korayn kaymnay?? aida kaymon bichar?
Ei duniyay kono bichar nai re bhai. Dekhen na aijka amader jekhane cup pawoner kotha, sheikhane polapain plate niya falafali lagay diche!
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Old January 26, 2010, 06:22 AM
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Did you guys see his *flipper* and so called leg spinners? He landed the ball near his feet and the balls hardly reached the batsmen. if we are to get 10 overs from him in ODIs he must work really really hard on his bowling. But for now, let him be a batsman?
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Old January 26, 2010, 07:10 AM
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I think fans here forget that Ash was brought into the team as a bowler, then changed to a batsman after he scored a century against SL. They should have groomed him to be a genuine all rounder like Sakib. He did mention in an interview that he likes bowling. Now, he is neither a good bowler nor a good batsman, he is in no man's land. Just my observations.
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Old January 26, 2010, 07:12 AM
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I think fans here forget that Ash was brought into the team as a bowler, then changed to a batsman after he scored a century against SL. They should have groomed him to be a genuine all rounder like Sakib. He did mention in an interview that he likes bowling. Now, he is neither a good bowler nor a good batsman, he is in no man's land. Just my observations.
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Old January 26, 2010, 07:16 AM
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Bowling is much more cerebral than batting.
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Old January 26, 2010, 07:54 AM
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no.. still theres way.. really?
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Old January 26, 2010, 07:59 AM
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There is definitely one way to keep his place in the team.

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Old January 26, 2010, 08:02 AM
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I think fans here forget that Ash was brought into the team as a bowler, then changed to a batsman after he scored a century against SL. They should have groomed him to be a genuine all rounder like Sakib. He did mention in an interview that he likes bowling. Now, he is neither a good bowler nor a good batsman, he is in no man's land. Just my observations.
I second that.. He has always been getting wickets when he was brought into bowling 2-3 over spells.. And because he said he likes bowling, I think we should just make him a bowler, we all know he has talents, maybe his brain will change if he starts to bowl regular.. Just Maybe..
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first drop him from the national team for 6-12 months.

let him concentrate on his bowling under a good bowling coach. he can bowl offspin, legspin, googlies, flippers, sem up. so lets him transform into a regular 10 over ODI bowler and a consistent test bowler.

then he can play as a bowling all rounder in the team and bat at 8 in tests and ODI. in ODI's may be sometime promoted in order to do some pinch hitting or using the batting powerplays.

i like the idea. ei time er modhdhe gadhatar ekta biya korano dorkar. ektu line e ashbe taile. run na korte parle bou er thela khabe. tokhon dekhben kmne douraya douraya run kore.
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Old January 26, 2010, 08:48 AM
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ashen amra shobai mile ashraful er jonno sherokom ekta bou khuji
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Old January 26, 2010, 09:17 AM
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Why everyone is against Ash when there are worse to get rid of? How does everyone else get free ride?
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Old January 26, 2010, 09:27 AM
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Why everyone is against Ash when there are worse to get rid of? How does everyone else get free ride?
Because Ashraful has been playing Test cricket for eight years and has still not learned to build an innings. He has played more than 50 Tests, for Pete's sake. If he hasn't learned by now, there is no need to persist with him. It would be better to hand the bat to Imrul and Junaid, who are really no worse but are in a position to learn.

Drop Ashraful and bring in Naeem as a specialist bowler who will bat at No. 8. The batting line-up is then Tamim, Imrul, Junaid, Rokib, Shakib, Mushfique, Riyad, Naeem, Sharapova, Shafiul, Rubel. Problem solved.
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Old January 26, 2010, 09:29 AM
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Halay batting korte pare na abar bowling korte aiche...bat kor hala!

Kalke 100 na maarley gali ektao mukhe thekbe na!
Asif bhai.....dont forget u make 30 i make 30 , we win the match.....30+ aabar ki jinish...ash jaanei na..
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Old January 26, 2010, 09:39 AM
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Because Ashraful has been playing Test cricket for eight years and has still not learned to build an innings. He has played more than 50 Tests, for Pete's sake. If he hasn't learned by now, there is no need to persist with him. It would be better to hand the bat to Imrul and Junaid, who are really no worse but are in a position to learn.

Drop Ashraful and bring in Naeem as a specialist bowler who will bat at No. 8. The batting line-up is then Tamim, Imrul, Junaid, Rokib, Shakib, Mushfique, Riyad, Naeem, Sharapova, Shafiul, Rubel. Problem solved.
Ashraful at least has the potential to do things time to time as he has shown many times. How about Imrul and Junaid? At best, they can occupy the crease with Tamim (not necessarily a bad thing) but unable to do anything of their own. Rokibul is not even capable to do that and should be the first one to go. These 3 does not even have the potential of doing something big like Ash.
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Old January 26, 2010, 10:19 AM
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Ashraful at least has the potential to do things time to time as he has shown many times. How about Imrul and Junaid? At best, they can occupy the crease with Tamim (not necessarily a bad thing) but unable to do anything of their own. Rokibul is not even capable to do that and should be the first one to go. These 3 does not even have the potential of doing something big like Ash.
They are all test cricket newbies! Ash has shown "potential" for eight years now. Has he harnessed that potential? Hell no! Imrul, Junaid and Rock have time on their side to demonstrate that they have the ability to shine at this level. Ash has squandered eight years! If those three underperform for a year then, sure, drop them. But you can't take away a spot from an up and coming cricketer just to have Ash on the team. He's had a guaranteed spot in the team for long enough and has done no justice to the faith put in him. Time for us to move on. Let's stop living in the past. Let's look forward and groom new talent. It's time we learned to cut our losses and consider alternative investments.
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Old March 1, 2010, 11:06 AM
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so ashraful is dropped and now doing good in FC cricket.

sorry, he is not doing well in batting but in bowling.

after scores of 0, 21,0 now he comes up with figures of 27-12-68-4

he also got 2 wickets in the previous game.

so looks like my funny prediction is getting some reality.
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wow offstump i so wanna kick your arse for being right once more. I hate you!
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