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Old December 12, 2004, 11:00 PM
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Default Bowlers batting vs. batsman batting - unbelievable statistics.

The 4 bowlers (rana, rafuq, masrafee, Taposh) scorded: 78+109=187.

I am not counting Mushfiq here. He couldn't make this team with pure bowling.

There was extra 6+12=18

The other 7 players scored 184+202-18-187= 181.

187 vs 181.

Has that ever happened in test cricket?
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Old December 13, 2004, 02:10 AM
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Give our stats guru a few minutes and he'll find similar results from one of our previous experiences, he doesn't even have to look at other teams.


Than again, you prolly knew this already.
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Old December 13, 2004, 02:11 AM
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Has that ever happened in test cricket? - I used to think that Zimbabwe and New Zealand's lower order is much much better than their top order, though I can't give you any stats.
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Old December 13, 2004, 02:35 AM
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Not exactly the answer but at Harare earlier this year, the last five wickets contributed 91.72% of the Bangladesh's total (14/5 to 169 allout). According to Aslam Siddiqui's post in rec.sport.cricket, this is the third highest contribution by the last five wicket.

http://cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/...47/f47349.html

Aslam's post

Another interesting post Some of our lower order batsmen may find a place in this list one of these days

The last 5 wkts contributed 70% in both innings, which could be rare.

Edited on, December 13, 2004, 7:44 AM GMT, by Tintin.
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Old December 13, 2004, 09:11 AM
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Not exactly the answer but at Harare earlier this year, the last five wickets contributed 91.72% of the Bangladesh's total (14/5 to 169 allout). According to Aslam Siddiqui's post in rec.sport.cricket, this is the third highest contribution by the last five wicket.

http://cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/...47/f47349.html

Aslam's post

Another interesting post Some of our lower order batsmen may find a place in this list one of these days

The last 5 wkts contributed 70% in both innings, which could be rare.

Edited on, December 13, 2004, 7:44 AM GMT, by Tintin.
The last 5 wickets still contained batsman and wicketkeepers. This is pure bowlers this time. And also 2 innings combined.
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Old December 13, 2004, 10:32 AM
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If I may contribute my 2 cents, I think this phenomenon has everything to do with the right attitude than anything else. I posted in another thread a while ago, but to re-iterate, the only thing matters in pressure situation is the attitude, whether a person wants to make a difference or not. In the past one year of watching BD playing test cricket, I think the follwoing players go out to win (or at least challenge the opponent):

Rafiq
Tapash
Mashrafee
Nazmul
Rana
Ashraful (sometimes)
Nafis (on/off)

The rest, I feel, don't believe that they can win.
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Old December 13, 2004, 11:36 AM
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The rest, I feel, don't believe that they can win.
I agree. We need to find winners. But you know I thought Rajin is a winner too. I hope he comes back. I think Pilot has the attitude. as well. One bad test is not enough to right him off. I think he had the best century for us. Also can you forget the 6 in the last over agains Kenya in ICC.
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Old December 13, 2004, 07:45 PM
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What has happened to Bashar? He used to be the only one going for a win. Now it has all turned around. What has happened, I want to know?
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Old December 14, 2004, 08:43 AM
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i think bashar is always worried about his injury or may be its going to take some time for him to come back hey look at sachin he took 3/4 matches and a weaker team to comeback to form so give him some time batting wise and also captancy wise too
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Old December 14, 2004, 10:09 AM
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The last 5 wickets still contained batsman and wicketkeepers. This is pure bowlers this time. And also 2 innings combined.
Found one such match from the list, but no idea how many others are there - In the India v South Africa test mentioned in that link, the four Indian bowlers (Kapil, Prabhakar, Raju and Kumble) scored 37 + 165 = 202 while the other seven made 193. Link

Got this from rec.sport.cricket - In the second innings of the second test against New Zealand the lower order contributed 71.76% of the score (74/5 - 262). In the recent test , the last five wickets contributed 72.82% in the first innings and 82.18% in the second innings.

This is the first time in history that the lower order contributed more than 70% of a team's total in three consecutive innings.
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Old December 14, 2004, 10:45 AM
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Rafiq
Tapash
Mashrafee
Nazmul
Rana
Ashraful (sometimes)
Nafis (on/off)

The rest, I feel, don't believe that they can win.
U did not count Rajin
I wouldn't say he is e believer that he can winn..
but probably, similar to your definition, he is also one guy who has shown gutts that he can challange the opponent... and not in just one innings.. he has done it in consecutive innings!

I admit currently he is out of form.. but I think he can find himself back.
He is one of the fighters too.
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Old December 14, 2004, 11:13 AM
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i am, and will always be a rajin fan...i hope he comes back...i'm glad he got dropped...cuz then hopefully like ash he will come back like fire.
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Old December 14, 2004, 12:10 PM
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i am, and will always be a rajin fan...i hope he comes back...i'm glad he got dropped...cuz then hopefully like ash he will come back like fire.
I like your attitute. I hope other Rajin fans .... well forget about them. Trust me, when Rajin comes back with fire, we will all support him, until then "Chrer De Ma Kede Bachi..."

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Old December 14, 2004, 12:17 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Tintin
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Got this from rec.sport.cricket - In the second innings of the second test against New Zealand the lower order contributed 71.76% of the score (74/5 - 262). In the recent test , the last five wickets contributed 72.82% in the first innings and 82.18% in the second innings.

This is the first time in history that the lower order contributed more than 70% of a team's total in three consecutive innings.
I am beginning to suspect that you are the REAL TINTIN.
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