will the bd players be Fasting during the world cup?

[cricket_king]

If I was them, there is no way I would risk dehydration and starvation. Cricket requires energy as does any sport, and fasting will definitely hamper the players' performance.

[BD-Shardul]

If they don't fast, they will be deprived of the blessing of Allah

Asha nai ar WC er

[Lord AK]

The players should fast. If they do Allah will give them the energy to play well because they haven't forgotten about Allah. If they don't fast then Allah won't make Bangladesh win any match. After all Allah is the one who can do anything.

[Tiger Bhai]

Man!!! Just leave the fasting thing a side, its a personal thing and its non-of your business. i would keep hell, fire, bad breth, beard and religion out of cricket.
i hate mullah-cricket supporters..

[Fahim]

Originally Posted by djuice
I am also not an Alim. But I think Allah will understand if the players don't fast.
(I am applying the same logic that you employed to decided what is acceptable to Allah).

And how is fasting more rewarding then playing a cricket match and winning it?
If you fast you get hungry, but if you play cricket for your country you get the fame, the money the enjoyment...and blessings of so many supporters.

trust me bro, the amount of reward you get while fasting is immensive both here and the afterlife: 1st thing is, you avoid punishment. secondly, if Allah knows you are fasting only for Him and still playing cricket, who knows (except Allah) how good the bd players will play? maybe Allah will be happy and so make our teamwin the worldcup!

[Fahim]

Originally Posted by Tiger Bhai
Man!!! Just leave the fasting thing a side, its a personal thing and its non-of your business. i would keep hell, fire, bad breth, beard and religion out of cricket.
i hate mullah-cricket supporters..

i am not mullah bro. im just a hardcore bangladeshi cricket fan who strives to be a GOOD MUSLIM...

[Puck]

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
no, it is NOT permissible.

the quran states that if you miss [B]

but if anyone else who is not a professional player thinks they can break fasts to play a game of street cricket, woe unto him...

what a miserable life you lead through the scorning of fellow man! peace be upon you.

[Tigers_eye]

Originally Posted by Tiger Bhai
...i hate mullah-cricket supporters..

Hate is a strong word. I suggest you find another word to express your feelings.
'Dislike' may be? "Love" all creations (including human") is the best. (treat others they way you want to be treated. You wouldn't be happy if someone says he/she 'Hate' you)

Originally Posted by Fahim
im not no alim...

Double negatives. Meaning suggest you are an Alim.

Originally Posted by Fahim
i guess they don't have no choice.

Again Double negatives. Meaning they have choices.

For beginners, feel free to visit the links Ahmed_B had posted.

[Hatebreed]

It's the players' personal choice. Let's not pass judgements, because Allah knows best. Personally, I agree with the Ehsen said, assuming it's accurate seeing as no one has challenged that information. If they are considered travelers, then they should have no problem. Even if it isn't required, they can at least fast on days there are no matches.

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by Tiger Bhai
i hate mullah-cricket supporters..

its good to see the non-mullah use the word 'hate' first.

keep up the bad work.

[Baundule]

Does fasting mean that you can not do your daily works?

Cricket is nothing more than daily work for a cricketer. No one should use it as an excuse. Keep Islam simple and straight-forward, as it SHOULD be!

[Murad]

I think we should end the discussion here. We're arguing about the people who might not even pray, let alone fasting. We don't even know if they fast when they dont have a game. And I said in the previous post that it's their personnal matter. If they don't fast or pray, they will be questioned not us. But again, we have the right to explain it to people whats right and wrong and that is ISLAM. It is our right to tell the people to pray and fast. It's their problem if they dont but we have to bring them to the right path of Islam. It's our DUTY. You cannot just say its their business if they pray or fast, if you do then you will be the sinner. If you read hadis or something you know that better than me. If you are a true believer and follower of Islam, you won't argue with me.

It really hurts when our own fellow muslims over-react when they hear something about ISLAM. I didn't know that being a Mullah or Alim should not follow cricket. Its really funny to hear that someone says "hate the mulla cricket supporters". Brother, I don't know why you said that but it wasn't the right way saying this. You might not like Mullah's because you dont want them come near you and say some hadis to you. But please don't hate them, Allah don't like the word "hate".

There's no schollars in islam. Everyone is a learner. We learn from each other. We explain to other what we know. We just cannot keep it to ourselves. If you know a hadis, you have to explain it to others around so they also know it. and THIS IS ISLAM. If you have to teach others what you know and learn from others. Don't ever say you know everything and if you do that means you are lying.

I'm no Mullah or Alim. I never went to a Madrasha or something. I'm like another person like you. I don't know much about Islam but trying to learn from others. I learnt those things by reading Quran, Hadis and by going to the Mosque, also from other people. And I'm sure other brothers learnt about Islam same way I did. And it is not bad to learn from others.

I've nothing to else to say. If I say something more then I've to hear some more hating words. And also moderators will start warning me as its a cricket related thread.

Thanks fellow Muslim Brothers & Sisters. Allah tomader mongol koruk. Amen.

P.S: Mods, a friendly sudgetion, please transfer this thread to the forget cricket section.

[Nafi]

I only follow Quran, I dont pay attention to the inaccuracies of hadiths.

[Murad]

Originally Posted by Eshen
If you are in a place away (at least 77 km) from your home and planning to stay there for less then 15 days, you are considered a musafir - for the whole period, not only when you are physically moving. Also, if you keep moving from places to places (which are atleast 77 km away from each other) and don't stop at one place for 15 continuous days or more, you will be continued to be considered a musafir (as is the case with our players in this Africa tour).

I suggest people interested in this matter to check books such as Bahisti Zewar for clarification.

However, I whole heartedly agree with what you said below.

Thanks for correcting me, bro. I didn't know the duration.

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
Bang on target. one of most cogently accurate statements made on BC. well stated, son, well stated...

Al Furqaan bhai, thanks for ur kind words

[Sohel]

Hmm ... perhaps another intelligence failure, meaning the failure to be intelligent???

Dehydration(hypohydration) is the removal of water (hydro in ancient Greek) from an object. Medically, it is a condition in which the body contains an insufficient volume of water for normal functioning ...

In humans, dehydration can be caused by a wide range of diseases and states that impair water homeostasis in the body. These include:

External or stress-related causes

Prolonged physical activity without consuming adequate water, especially in a hot and/or humid environment ...

Symptoms and prognosis

Symptoms may include headaches similar to what is experienced during a hangover, a sudden episode of visual snow, decreased blood pressure (hypotension), and dizziness or fainting when standing up due to orthostatic hypotension. Untreated dehydration generally results in delirium, unconsciousness, and in extreme cases death.

Dehydration symptoms generally become noticeable after 2% of one's normal water volume has been lost. Initially, one experiences thirst and discomfort, possibly along with loss of appetite and dry skin. This can be followed by constipation. Athletes may suffer a loss of performance of up to 30%, and experience flushing, low endurance, rapid heart rates, elevated body temperatures, and rapid onset of fatigue.

Link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehydration

If you choose to do sports, do it right. If not, don't ... and PLEASE leave the judgment to the ONLY one who knows all ... Allah ... and not some vindictive, moody, bearded pagan god of limited intelligence like Jupiter ... no matter what you call him.

[Sauron]

To me it's simple - Whether someone will fast or not is between him and Allah.

If someone acts tired on the field then we can only speculate whether it is because he is fasting or not. But I don't think any of our pathetic losses were ever connected to our boys not eating food or not drinking water.

By the same token, if someone performs below par (be it because of fasting or not) he should be treated accordingly. Fasting should not be an excuse for performing poorly. Now each player needs to make their own choice.

Also, remember - working is a form of ibadot. Allah expects one to perform their daily work effectively & honestly i.e. with integrity and professionalism.

If a player feels that he must fast and fasting will impact his ability to perform his best, then he should recuse himself from playing. And if the player feels that he can fast and perform his best, then all the power to him.




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[Nocturnal]

people people people.....there is always some kind of domestic or sometimes international cricket happening in BD during Ramadan month for YEARS and there no question arise cause if a player wants to fast he does it....simple. I have seen many players fasting during Dhaka Premier League Cricket and feel comfortable with that and ofcourse many players are not fasting. Same goes to this 20-20 WC too. Personal choice I guess. Thanks.

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by muradnyc
I think we should end the discussion here. We're arguing about the people who might not even pray, let alone fasting. We don't even know if they fast when they dont have a game. And I said in the previous post that it's their personnal matter. If they don't fast or pray, they will be questioned not us. But again, we have the right to explain it to people whats right and wrong and that is ISLAM. It is our right to tell the people to pray and fast. It's their problem if they dont but we have to bring them to the right path of Islam. It's our DUTY. You cannot just say its their business if they pray or fast, if you do then you will be the sinner. If you read hadis or something you know that better than me. If you are a true believer and follower of Islam, you won't argue with me.

It really hurts when our own fellow muslims over-react when they hear something about ISLAM. I didn't know that being a Mullah or Alim should not follow cricket. Its really funny to hear that someone says "hate the mulla cricket supporters". Brother, I don't know why you said that but it wasn't the right way saying this. You might not like Mullah's because you dont want them come near you and say some hadis to you. But please don't hate them, Allah don't like the word "hate".

There's no schollars in islam. Everyone is a learner. We learn from each other. We explain to other what we know. We just cannot keep it to ourselves. If you know a hadis, you have to explain it to others around so they also know it. and THIS IS ISLAM. If you have to teach others what you know and learn from others. Don't ever say you know everything and if you do that means you are lying.

I'm no Mullah or Alim. I never went to a Madrasha or something. I'm like another person like you. I don't know much about Islam but trying to learn from others. I learnt those things by reading Quran, Hadis and by going to the Mosque, also from other people. And I'm sure other brothers learnt about Islam same way I did. And it is not bad to learn from others.

I've nothing to else to say. If I say something more then I've to hear some more hating words. And also moderators will start warning me as its a cricket related thread.

Thanks fellow Muslim Brothers & Sisters. Allah tomader mongol koruk. Amen.

P.S: Mods, a friendly sudgetion, please transfer this thread to the forget cricket section.

againt well stated murad bhai. jazak allah khairan

[cricman]

I saw one of the greatest basketball players ever put up 28 pts and 10+ Rbs for 15 years fasting during Ramadan

[Sohel]

Originally Posted by cricman
I saw one of the greatest basketball players ever put up 28 pts and 10+ Rbs for 15 years fasting during Ramadan

Kareem or Hakim bro? I don't know my baskeball ...

[cricman]

Originally Posted by Sohel NR
Kareem or Hakim bro? I don't know my baskeball ...

Hakeem

[Sohel]

Originally Posted by cricman
Hakeem

Thanks.

[al Furqaan]

speaking of which, i remember january 19, 1997 during ramadan the rockets were playing the jordan-pippen-rodman lead bulls.

the game was on NBC, and Hakeem had 33 points, 17 rebounds, 5 blocks, et al during an afternoon game while he was fasting - no Gatorade even! The Dream even managed to block a driving Michael Jordan...needless to say the Rockets won the game.

oh an i just learned that Pakistan won the 92 WC during ramadan.

[Murad]

Allah said: "if you make one step towards me, i will make 10 steps toward you".