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September 17, 2012, 03:36 AM
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Enough with the 2 pacer attack
The 2nd pacer in the team is conceding at 9+ runs over every game no matter who it is. High time we replace him with Zunaed to prevent these usual mega collapses and chokes and play with 4 Spinners + 1 pacer.
Also, no more death over bowling with Mash please. Shak should be given that responsibility, he bowled some really good death overs in IPL, even against the likes of Dhoni and Raina in that final i think.
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September 17, 2012, 03:46 AM
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Shak cannot be expected to take top order wickets, break middle order partnerships and bowl death overs. He only has 4 overs!
The others need to grow a pair
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September 17, 2012, 03:49 AM
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4 spinner including Riyad? you do realize Riyad is only a part timer?????
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September 17, 2012, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by nadim 98
4 spinner including Riyad? you do realize Riyad is only a part timer?????
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Still light years ahead of our pacers (Abul & Shafiul), apart from the match today he has been quite good, bowled that amazing last over vs Ireland & bowled well in SLPL too. Lets not forget we have Nasir/Zia too.
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September 17, 2012, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by nadim 98
4 spinner including Riyad? you do realize Riyad is only a part timer?????
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Riad ajke jei mar khaiche Mushy ar oke bowling dibe kina sondeho !!
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September 17, 2012, 04:00 AM
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Why dont we get Ash to bowl and he might solve our troubles.
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September 17, 2012, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Jadukor
Shak cannot be expected to take top order wickets, break middle order partnerships and bowl death overs. He only has 4 overs!
The others need to grow a pair
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as you said we can't expect shak to do everything, the others need to step up it's non-negotiable.
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September 17, 2012, 04:43 AM
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Well this is expected. Shafiul is erratic, and Abul is not mentally strong enough for this format. It wont get any easier against NZ and Pakistan-both teams will be very comfortable against our pace attack.
We have 3 options
1) Play with current lineup. This is anyway the most likely outcome
2) Play with extra batsman and sacrifice a quick like Rifat suggests. Anyway we are likely to open with a spinner. Might add a bit more depth in batting.
3) Play Forhad Reza instead of Shafiul/Abul. Adds a bit more depth in batting. Also can bowl if required
Probably we will resort to option 1 because its the safest. I read the Pallekele wicket has decent bounce. Hopefully 2 quicks will be able to extract sth.
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September 17, 2012, 04:54 AM
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I reckon Reza might be a better bowler then Shafiul. Even though Reza might be an all rounder he is still poor with the bat. Let Ziaur bowl ffs!
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September 17, 2012, 05:01 AM
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The way things are looking, better to include Phorhad Veza instead of Shafi or Abul.
He can bowl 2 overs, can hold the bat better than them as well.
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September 17, 2012, 05:05 AM
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I think its high time Zia bowls 3-4 overs. He is decent and we should use him. Problem is, Mushy does not go out of the box.
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September 17, 2012, 05:19 AM
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If we include Reza in our XI, and like Rabz said, can hold the bat unlike Shafiul or Abul. And I don't think he will do any worse than Shafiul/Abul. He was OK in the BPL as well.
Mashrafe, Reza, Razzak, Shakib, Sunny, Riyad, Ziaur. We've got so many options.
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September 17, 2012, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Rifat_02
The 2nd pacer in the team is conceding at 9+ runs over every game no matter who it is. High time we replace him with Zunaed to prevent these usual mega collapses and chokes and play with 4 Spinners + 1 pacer.
Also, no more death over bowling with Mash please. Shak should be given that responsibility, he bowled some really good death overs in IPL, even against the likes of Dhoni and Raina in that final i think.
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I dont see how our selectors continue to overlook this. Yes its great in theory to play 2 pacers, cos in the future thats the team we want to be... but we play in the here and now, right now we need to win matches ffs.
Essentially, we are playing with 10 players and carrying our 2nd pacer. Both shafiul and abul will get taken to pieces, runs leak against these players and they dont look like taking wickets.
Riyad is good for 3-4 overs, ash/zia/nasir can all bowl. These can make up the overs very easily. Atm, our 2nd pacer is generally bowling 1,2 overs (3 overs today was a max) - strange selection.
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- Farhad Reza: one of the worst players ive seen in intl cricket. Mashrafe is a much better batsmen. Would not pick unless he has improved
- Jahurul/Junaid: Neither are really suited to the end of the innings. But out of these two i would probably choose Jahurul to bat at 8.
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September 17, 2012, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Jadukor
Shak cannot be expected to take top order wickets, break middle order partnerships and bowl death overs. He only has 4 overs!
The others need to grow a pair
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our other players just arent good enough. Riyad can bowl some death overs imo. Otherwise, its slim pickings and shak may have to be relied upon to bowl 1 of the death overs.
Wouldve liked to see riyad bowl overs 18 and 20 today
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September 17, 2012, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by maysun
Mashrafe, Reza, Razzak, Shakib, Sunny, Riyad, Ziaur. We've got so many options.
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You forgot spin king Ash
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September 17, 2012, 05:37 AM
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Should have taken Nazmul in this squad. A player like arafat sunny also would have been more handy than farhad reza
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September 17, 2012, 05:45 AM
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Arafat Sunny would have been good but too many spinners in the team isnt going to be effective. Selectors should show faith in Nazmul.
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September 17, 2012, 06:04 AM
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Nazmul is crap in T20s, judging from the small sample size. Not a terrible idea though - 4 overs each from Shak, Raz, Mash and Sunny - rest 4 split between Mahmudullah, Nasir, and Zia. How bad can it be, really?
Although since Shafi has come to rescue many times picking crucial wickets, hitting runs etc - I'm still okay with him being in the side.
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September 17, 2012, 06:59 AM
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If there is anything to fix, it is pathetic Nasir, Mushi and Mullah to grow their game. If they cant bat, make runs against any opponets, BD has no business playing cricket, let alone in WC. Casing 160+ would a norm in WC, if they cant do that then better play against Bermuda and be happy.
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September 17, 2012, 07:09 AM
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If there is anything to fix, it is pathetic Nasir, Mushi and Mullah to grow their game. If they cant bat, make runs against any opponets, BD has no business playing cricket, let alone in WC. Casing 160+ would a norm in WC, if they cant do that then better play against Bermuda and be happy.
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It's basically Mushy and Nasir... Mullah played well in the last match...so hope he will do better in the final stages.... But Mushy and Nasir really needs to adjut their batting order and approach to fit into the team.
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September 17, 2012, 07:11 AM
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Bowling wise I think, this is the best available and they are doing reasonably well....our worry is batting...
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September 17, 2012, 07:23 AM
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Play Farhad Reza instead of Razzak. He leaks runs in the leg side and Taylor would have his merry day ( vs. Pakistan, anyone?) with him. And get Zia to bowl 2-3 overs. In that case, we get 4 pacers..also suited to Palekelle.
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September 17, 2012, 07:36 AM
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Mash- 1, 3, 12, 18
Razzak- 2, 4, 17, 19
Shakib- 5, 7, 16, 20
Ziaur- 6, (+-)14
Sunny- 8, 10, 13, 15
Riyad- 9, 11, (+-)14
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This is pretty much how I'd go. But depending on match situations, the combination would have changed.
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September 17, 2012, 09:18 AM
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Ahha! Let's see what actually happens on 21st and 25th....then you can open all sort of threads you want....
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September 17, 2012, 09:21 AM
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If we play just 1 specialist pacer, then we'll become one dimensional. Farhad could come in for Shafiul.
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