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June 4, 2005, 11:48 PM
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Remembering Monjurul Islam - the left arm pacer & our bowling
First of all, I must admit my fear that if we had batted during the morning session on Day Two - with the drizzle and the cloud cover - then we would not have such a good batting performance from our batsman.
Secondly, the most disappointing thing for me, is to have to remember of Monjurul Islam Monju, the left arm most reliable pacer of Bangladesh since our gaining test status.
Had Monjurul Islam been playing for Bangladesh in the Riverside, under the cloud cover and in the drizzling condition, I don't know what all of you were expecting, but I was sure that Monju could have at least taken a wicket or two.
This is sad, really. I was particularly disappointed in Mashrafee, whom we consider to be our best strike bowler, to not to take advantage of the situation. Tapash was the other experienced bowler who should have taken at least one wicket in that time-period along with Mashrafee Bin Murtoza (who actually had taken a couple of wickets both in the Lord's Test & in the current match).
With all the good performance of our batsman right now, let us just not forget the disappointments of our bowlers.
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June 4, 2005, 11:56 PM
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He was great at his time. However, age has taken over, now he struggles in domestic league.
There is no point wishing he was still playing.
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June 5, 2005, 12:00 AM
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Yeh Monjural's pace has also dropped. I think anyway he would have been hit all over the park with his gentle medium pace. I still wonder where is Bikash Das who played our 1st test match.
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June 5, 2005, 12:34 AM
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u cannot be dissapointed with mash, he bowled not abd during this test series and at the foremost of the england innings him tapash were bowling very good, 15 dotballs. But mash needs support he cannot carry the bowling attack hence why it affects it, and no pressure can be built up
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June 5, 2005, 12:40 AM
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Regarding left arm pacers, selectors had a good option in SK Rasel ( at least for ODI's). I think it was Rabeed Imam who said he is a medium pacer who can swing the ball both way and has good control over it. He is currently playing club cricket in Australia and so far has couple of good matches. He is also a useful late order batsman. Matter of fact, McInnes even tried him as an opener in few onedays against Zim A. In my opinion he would be a lot better option than Munir.
Edited on, June 5, 2005, 5:45 AM GMT, by TheWatcher.
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June 5, 2005, 12:43 AM
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Well, on Day One, when there was some cloud-cover, both Mashrafee and Tapash was bowling brilliantly. It was only after the Tea Break when Vaughn in particular had decided to turn on the screws coupled with sun shining that did us.
From then onwards, we were simply 'smashed around' all around the park.
This is why I'm disappointed in both Mashrafee & Tapash because on Day Two morning session, there was no sun plus it was drizzling. There was no point why Mashrafee & Tapash started to bowl so badly compared to what they had done on Day One.
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June 5, 2005, 01:07 AM
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We remember everyone .........
1)Anisur Rahman
2)Saiful Islam
3) Bikash Ranjan Das
4)Hasibul Hossain
And many more ........
how can we forget them ?
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June 5, 2005, 09:58 AM
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koto ashbe koto. jabe........board jodi beshi change kore taholei era chance pabe na....ekta match e kau kharap korle..shobai bole bad dao bad dao..tahole to hobe na...chance dite hobe......
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June 5, 2005, 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by Bangla amar Maa
We remember everyone .........
1)Anisur Rahman
2)Saiful Islam
3) Bikash Ranjan Das
4)Hasibul Hossain
And many more ........
how can we forget them ?
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I want to add another forgotten man- Aminul Islam Bhola
The guy even got a wicket in the only ODI he played.
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June 5, 2005, 02:47 PM
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What about Mohammed Sharif he was good bowler....??
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June 5, 2005, 02:58 PM
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No, not at all. Manjurul isnt in form and he would get beaten by ENglish batsmen like Munir did in the game.
And...I am not at all dissappointed with masrafe`s bowling. He bowled very well and took wickets. He proved that he is a test bowler. He proved that he is a test bowler who can fight with the top teams in test arena.
I would rather concern on rafiques`s bowling, Not much turn and too many arm ball. He should have taken more wickets.
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June 5, 2005, 06:10 PM
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One more to add, Morshed Ali Khan Suman. He played two ODIs against India.
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June 5, 2005, 06:47 PM
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What about Mohammed Sharif he was good bowler....??
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Sharif was a decent bowler and bat. but, he aparently is in deep doo-doo with Richard McInnis. I have a lot of respect for the modern, methodical and dispassionate way McInnis goes about his profession. As much as I would like to see Sharif prosper, I'd have to come down on R.M.'s side on this one.
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June 5, 2005, 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by reinausagi
Sharif was a decent bowler and bat. but, he aparently is in deep doo-doo with Richard McInnis.
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Can you clarify little more what are you trying to say? This is a news to me!
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June 5, 2005, 07:22 PM
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I refer you to Fwullah's post of 3/19/05
Referring to one of coach RM's match reports, she posed the following (unresponded to) querry:
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I read in one of your reports (match repports vs ZIM A) somewhere that Sharif did not listen properly about what to do in batting - and got out selfishly on several occassions.
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June 5, 2005, 08:38 PM
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Out of the 6 wickets we got in this series, mashrafee got 4 (if i'm not mistaken). there is no point talking about him. His batting came as a surprise to me and probably to everyone else. but i guess it just showed that he is unable to play moving balls. Taposh did better than the rest. but what I was really missing is enamul jr. i hope he was there instead of munir. that could have made a difference. monju would not have been any better. our pacers are not up for international level and its a fact now. so, its time we start using the best bowlers we have, more spinners.
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June 5, 2005, 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by AgentSmith
Out of the 6 wickets we got in this series, mashrafee got 4 (if i'm not mistaken). there is no point talking about him. His batting came as a surprise to me and probably to everyone else. but i guess it just showed that he is unable to play moving balls. Taposh did better than the rest. but what I was really missing is enamul jr. i hope he was there instead of munir. that could have made a difference. monju would not have been any better. our pacers are not up for international level and its a fact now. so, its time we start using the best bowlers we have, more spinners.
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It really disappoints me to see that Enamul Jr. came and went without playing a single match. We should have played him.
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June 6, 2005, 12:19 AM
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Age has gotten him? He is only 25 years old,,his stats in the recent tourney wasnt that bad either:
7 matches 16 Wickets with 29.56 Avg.
Its true that he doesnt have the same venom as he use to but I think it has more to do with how these players are motivated once they are dropped..
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June 6, 2005, 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by Dhakablues
Age has gotten him? He is only 25 years old,,his stats in the recent tourney wasnt that bad either:
7 matches 16 Wickets with 29.56 Avg.
Its true that he doesnt have the same venom as he use to but I think it has more to do with how these players are motivated once they are dropped..
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He looks old. Knowing our culture (Javed played for u/19 at age of 12), I would add 5 years to his official age. Anyway, even Shanta did better than him in oneday version of NCL, while his performence in the longer version is not even worth to mention.
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June 6, 2005, 01:00 AM
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Originally posted by reinausagi
I refer you to Fwullah's post of 3/19/05
Referring to one of coach RM's match reports, she posed the following (unresponded to) querry:
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I read in one of your reports (match repports vs ZIM A) somewhere that Sharif did not listen properly about what to do in batting - and got out selfishly on several occassions.
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I still do not get it, how can Sharif get in trouble for his batting ! If he is to make the team, it should be for his bowling, his batting should be considered a bonus. Anyway, we have specialist batsmen in the national team even who don't listen to the coach.
Edited on, June 6, 2005, 6:04 AM GMT, by TheWatcher.
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June 6, 2005, 10:34 AM
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i feel masri is at int'l level....but he lacked someone to build up pressure from the other end...tapash did it for a while but then failed.
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