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June 5, 2018, 12:38 PM
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Rubel should never play T20 again
Give me overweight Taskin instead
Edit: Al Amin, Mustafizur, Taskin, Hider, Roy are all players I would have above Rubel in T20s
Rubel above jayed and abul
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June 5, 2018, 12:44 PM
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He should definitely not be asked to close out a match. Has NO clue. Got thrashed by Murali. Got thrashed by Dinesh Karthik, Got thrashed by Nabi.
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June 5, 2018, 12:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RazabQ
He should definitely not be asked to close out a match. Has NO clue. Got thrashed by Murali. Got thrashed by Dinesh Karthik, Got thrashed by Nabi.
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Can't open with new ball, can't finish, it's 20 overs, when can he Bowl, overs 13 and 15?
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June 5, 2018, 12:49 PM
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Thats three matches he lost for us now in late overs
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June 5, 2018, 12:53 PM
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Has Taskin gone for 20plus before once at thw death? Rubel has few now.
But.. Taskin is apparently worse. I don’t think TSkin would’ve been this easy to smack sixes with such ease as they found Rubels juciy half trackers to hit.
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June 5, 2018, 12:56 PM
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Has no shame whatsoever. What the f has this geezer done to get into t20 side? He fails every bpl miserably even against local batsmen. He’s never had a good t20 record as a bowler. I’m okay with him at ODI’s. But t20s? Never.
Get Taskin, AlAmin, Qazi, Ebadat who can bowl with new ball. Ffs! They can’t surely be giving 20+runs an over like that and be so expensive like Rubel!
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June 5, 2018, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mas_UK25
Has no shame whatsoever. What the f has this geezer done to get into t20 side? He fails every bpl miserably even against local batsmen. He’s never had a good t20 record as a bowler. I’m okay with him at ODI’s. But t20s? Never.
Get Taskin, AlAmin, Qazi, Ebadat who can bowl with new ball. Ffs! They can’t surely be giving 20+runs an over like that and be so expensive like Rubel!
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Go with Taskin, Hider, Mustafizur
Al amin is world class T20 bowler, he's meant to be a prick though, so they don't want to put him in
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June 5, 2018, 01:00 PM
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BCB Destroyed Al-Amin (even part of it was self destruct). they should have started Hider long ago, he showed glimpse of hope few years back in BPL. For whatever reson BCB didnt gave him enough chance. They sticked with Rubel and Taskin even neithwe showed they are capable to use their brain.
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June 5, 2018, 01:05 PM
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We've lost both matches because our batsmen had no clue what to do against AFG spinners. 20 runs isn't a lot to defend bowling the penultimate over in a T20 match, especially when the opposition has loads of wickets in hand.
Not to mention our best bowler (and an ATG) went for 37 runs in his 4 overs...
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June 5, 2018, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by goru
We've lost both matches because our batsmen had no clue what to do against AFG spinners. 20 runs isn't a lot to defend bowling the penultimate over in a T20 match, especially when the opposition has loads of wickets in hand.
Not to mention our best bowler (and an ATG) went for 37 runs in his 4 overs...
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Even if it was 30 runs he would have lost it
He conceded 20 in 4 balls
20 off 12 Afghanistan is favourite, but not to win it in 4 balls
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June 5, 2018, 01:11 PM
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He sure isn’t the only reason for this defeat but he sure was against ind. but he is part of many reasons why BD lost today, again, you go for 20runs like that, dont you have any standards? He is garbage in this format and thats the fact. It’s the manner he gets smashed, all too easy as he bowls those bad balls either full pitched or short.
Again. Runs weren’t enough. Shakib played poor, batted sh.t bowled sh.t. Seniors didn’t use their heads as usual. Tomato carried rhe innings then got out when we needed him to see off rashid and take the pacers on last few overs. Sarkar is some passenger, plays like a khet wala who just picked a bat for the first time, got out when he too could’ve seen off rashid and waited to launch the pacers which Hider did and was successful. This will happen again. Soon. It’s a disease with this team, stuck for life.
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June 5, 2018, 01:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goru
We've lost both matches because our batsmen had no clue what to do against AFG spinners. 20 runs isn't a lot to defend bowling the penultimate over in a T20 match, especially when the opposition has loads of wickets in hand.
Not to mention our best bowler (and an ATG) went for 37 runs in his 4 overs...
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Yes our core players (batsman) are not explosive even in their good days.
And Yes our core players (bowlers) don't know how to bowl in T20.
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June 5, 2018, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tiger1000
He conceded 20 in 4 balls
20 off 12 Afghanistan is favourite, but not to win it in 4 balls
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Well, in the last match Rubel bowled one of the last 3 overs. He gave 13, other two gave 19 and 20 runs each. I think we have reason to be concerned about our death bowling in general (especially considering Mustafiz v2.0 is basically a downgrade), but it wasn't really the reason we lost in either match!
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June 5, 2018, 01:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mas_UK25
He sure isn’t the only reason for this defeat but he sure was against ind. but again, u fo for 20runs like that, dont you have any standards? He is garbage in this format and thats the fact. It’s the manner he gets smashed, all too easy as he bowls those bad balls either full pitched or short.
Again. Runs weren’t enough. Shakib played poor, batted sh.t bowled sh.t. Seniors didn’t use their heads as usual. Tomato carried rhe innings then got out when we needed him to see off rashid and take the pacers on last few overs. Sarkar is some passenger, plays like a khet wala who just picked a bat for the first time, got out when he too could’ve seen off rashid and waited to launch the pacers which Hider did and was successful. This will happen again. Soon. It’s a disease with this team, stuck for life.
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It's not a one off and this isn't a knee jerk reaction thread
Shakib is a mediocre captain and had an awful game which contributed to the loss, but one offs happen
Rubel clearly isn't good enough for 3/4 of the game
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June 5, 2018, 01:27 PM
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Ok maanlam (agreed) that Rubel shouldn't be picked up in T20. But still he is in the team. Who is to be blamed for that? Rubel (but cannot select himself), Sakib (the captain) and/or Selector?
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June 5, 2018, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Fazal
Ok maanlam (agreed) that Rubel shouldn't be picked up in T20. But still he is in the team. Who is to be blamed for that? Rubel (but cannot select himself), Sakib (the captain) and/or Selector?
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Selectors are sh1te
Ffs what's jayed and Abul doing in the team, some posters on here kept arguing with me when I said he wasn't good enough saying how would I know, you can tell these guys aren't good enough, nothing about them looks good
Rubel is the only one that looks good when he's bowling well
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June 5, 2018, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tiger1000
Selectors are sh1te
Ffs what's jayed and Abul doing in the team, some posters on here kept arguing with me when I said he wasn't good enough saying how would I know, you can tell these guys aren't good enough, nothing about them looks good
Rubel is the only one that looks good when he's bowling well
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Fans doesn't select the team. So it doesn't really matter what is their preference (of players).
The selectors select the final 14 team and the captain select the final 11. So the blame for selecting non-performers goes to the Captain (and Selectors).
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June 5, 2018, 01:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fazal
Fans doesn't select the team. So it doesn't really matter what is their preference (of players).
The selectors select the final 14 team and the captain select the final 11. So the blame for selecting non-performers goes to the Captain (and Selectors).
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Captain doesn't select the 11
Coach selects 11 with input from captain
That's how it works, hence mashrafe and hathuru fell out at times
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June 5, 2018, 02:01 PM
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Captain doesn't select the 11
Coach selects 11 with input from captain
That's how it works, hence mashrafe and hathuru fell out at times
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So its still haturu's fault?
Captain select final 11. Haturu interfered in some cases (not all) and that's when the conflict started. (Check what Papon said about that).
Now that Haturu is gone for a while now, that conflict is also gone. I am 100% sure the current team is selected by Sakib not by acting head coach.
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June 5, 2018, 02:39 PM
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Rubel does well in ODIs when the ball is 30 overs old. He does not have the control in t20.
Should be dropped in future t20 games
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June 5, 2018, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by adamnsu
Rubel does well in ODIs when the ball is 30 overs old. He does not have the control in t20.
Should be dropped in future t20 games
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It's impossible for the ball to be 30 overs old in ODIs. They use two balls in every inning, one from each end.
The rule changed a while back
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June 5, 2018, 02:52 PM
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It's impossible for the ball to be 30 overs old in ODIs. They use two balls in every inning, one from each end.
The rule changed a while back
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Ok 25 overs then. But my main point was Rubel has better control over the ball as it is older
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June 5, 2018, 02:56 PM
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Ok 25 overs then. But my main point was Rubel has better control over the ball as it is older
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I got your point.
The white balls tend to deteriorate faster than the red ones,...so a 15-20 over old white ball can be equivalent to a 45-50 overs old red ball.
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June 5, 2018, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Fazal
So its still haturu's fault?
Captain select final 11. Haturu interfered in some cases (not all) and that's when the conflict started. (Check what Papon said about that).
Now that Haturu is gone for a while now, that conflict is also gone. I am 100% sure the current team is selected by Sakib not by acting head coach.
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That's not how it ever worked
Mashrafe once even complained he wasn't having enough say in final 11
BCB board even said once hathuru shouldn't complain about selection as he is one of selectors and he picks the final 11
A captain doesn't have the much power, Hider bowled under Shakib and you think he would pick guys ahead of him?
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June 5, 2018, 05:13 PM
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I miss those days when a certain Al Amin Hossain would pick up wickets in pairs during death overs
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