Coach Issues

[Ian Pont]

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
Coach, with two coaching stints in the country you now realize the ugly truth: we, as a nation/peoples, are disgraceful. We have no dignity. All politicians are liars, and in Bangladesh everyone is a politician. Subcontinent in general is a cesspool of corrupt and uncivilized people, Bangladesh epitomizes that.

I was raised by my parents with the understanding that a promise or a commitment must be kept to fulfillment even if it breaks your back...next time don't make such promises! I was taught by my religion that the laborer must be paid for his work "before the sweat from his brow dries." Clearly those who made deals with Coach Fountain and those who contracted you to coach in BPL weren't raised with such ideals.

But knowing this, people like you and Richard McInnes have the passion to continue and try to help a nation that really doesn't care to help herself. We as fans can only salute you and wish we had the same conviction in our day to day lives.

So I ask you, why wait for the BCB, why not put in an offer for the HC job yourself? Get your people to talk to their people. We could use a guy who unlike Pybus is under no false assurance of what to expect once the plane lands.

This is, without doubt, singularly the best forum post I have ever read.

[Naimul_Hd]

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
Coach, with two coaching stints in the country you now realize the ugly truth: we, as a nation/peoples, are disgraceful. We have no dignity. All politicians are liars, and in Bangladesh everyone is a politician. Subcontinent in general is a cesspool of corrupt and uncivilized people, Bangladesh epitomizes that.

This statement itself shows how low and how cheap we think about ourselves.

Just for few corrupted politicians (who unfortunately run our country) you can't just make a general statement like that. When you talk about a nation/people, you better learn the history first and then make a statement.

Very offensive/insulting post, to say the least. Sorry.

[firstlane]

Originally Posted by Naimul_Hd
This statement itself shows how low and how cheap we think about ourselves.

Just for few corrupted politicians (who unfortunately run our country) you can't just make a general statement like that. When you talk about a nation/people, you better learn the history first and than make a statement.

Very offensive/insulting post, to say the least. Sorry.

No wonder that post was liked by some!

[BrianLara7]

Originally Posted by Naimul_Hd
This statement itself shows how low and how cheap we think about ourselves.

Just for few corrupted politicians (who unfortunately run our country) you can't just make a general statement like that. When you talk about a nation/people, you better learn the history first and then make a statement.

Very offensive/insulting post, to say the least. Sorry.

Truth hurts, look at BD's corruption level (ranked among the worst countries), per capita income, poverty, healthcare etc.... All we are good at is getting offended and complaining about unfairness.

[shuziburo]

Your post showed that you truly are a sage. However, I would say that there still are a lot of honest men and women in Bangladesh. I met quite a few in Bangladesh this summer. They proved their honesty by their actions, not words.

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
Coach, with two coaching stints in the country you now realize the ugly truth: we, as a nation/peoples, are disgraceful. We have no dignity. All politicians are liars, and in Bangladesh everyone is a politician. Subcontinent in general is a cesspool of corrupt and uncivilized people, Bangladesh epitomizes that.

I was raised by my parents with the understanding that a promise or a commitment must be kept to fulfillment even if it breaks your back...next time don't make such promises! I was taught by my religion that the laborer must be paid for his work "before the sweat from his brow dries." Clearly those who made deals with Coach Fountain and those who contracted you to coach in BPL weren't raised with such ideals.

But knowing this, people like you and Richard McInnes have the passion to continue and try to help a nation that really doesn't care to help herself. We as fans can only salute you and wish we had the same conviction in our day to day lives.

So I ask you, why wait for the BCB, why not put in an offer for the HC job yourself? Get your people to talk to their people. We could use a guy who unlike Pybus is under no false assurance of what to expect once the plane lands.

[shuziburo]

In our house, lying is never forgiven. Our daughter knows it very well. If I catch anyone lying just once, I never can trust that person. Then again, can you trust any politician? BD politician or not.

Originally Posted by Ian Pont
Let me say that Julien will likely never return for two reasons:

1. He has a better paid role and is highly respected in Pakistan
2. He was let down by Mustafa Kamal who shook his hand on an extension to his role and then Julien's job was advertised while he attended his dying father in England

From my viewpoint, I have been a successful Head Coach with Dhaka Gladiators and was asked to return by Mustafa Kamal in February to be with the national team in some capacity. I have heard nothing from the BCB since.

In life, you can only ever judge people by their actions and not their words. This is never more true than in Bangladesh. Those of us who have worked there understand that.

[shuziburo]

I hope Ian begins his national head coaching career with us and wins his first Cup.

Originally Posted by reyme
I am keeping my fingers crossed for Ian and Fountain. We need someone like them who truly care and also highly qualified to provide hands on training...

[reyme]

With new president or upcoming new president we can only hope for the best...

Yes, agree with Al Furqaan, instead of wait for BCB why not just contact BCB through agents about your desire to coach BD and your expectation in return. You never know, anything is possible. I do believe they are looking for a full time coach who will stay in Dhaka permanently like McInnes.

[TigerMan]

If Ponty does apply, there is hope of him taking over as there is a new president im pretty sure he wouldn't let this chance go!

[Crickbang]

Ian, go for it man. Dooo it!! We are with you. Contact BCB and push them hard to give you gig or apply the very first thing once they open up the application process. Get after it man. You can be a great coach for us. I can feeellll it! Let's goo. IAN PONT FOR HEAD COACH!! WE WANT YOU IAN! Oh one more thing, please sign the contract first and foremost if they hire you

[BrianLara7]

Originally Posted by Crickbang
Ian, go for it man. Dooo it!! We are with you. Contact BCB and push them hard to give you gig or apply the very first thing once they open up the application process. Get after it man. You can be a great coach for us. I can feeellll it! Let's goo. IAN PONT FOR HEAD COACH!! WE WANT YOU IAN! Oh one more thing, please sign the contract first and foremost if they hire you

[BengaliPagol]

Originally Posted by BrianLara7

Does something seem funny to you?

[Razi]

^^ Ditto bro, couldn't agree more!

[Ajfar]

It should have been BCB as a board/organization is a disgrace to our nation. Last I checked 20+ board administrator's and Loitta doesn't make up all of Bangladesh.

[Navo]

The thread has become substantially de-railed but it is interesting to see which members make their presumptions and assumptions about Bangladesh from online news clippings and decontexualized, often faulty WB, IMF, etc statistics.

Really, if you think TI's corruption index really reflects the extent of corruption in all of society rather than just a particular segment, then I'm left speechless.

[BrianLara7]

Originally Posted by Navo


The thread has become substantially de-railed but it is interesting to see which members make their presumptions and assumptions about Bangladesh from online news clippings and decontexualized, often faulty WB, IMF, etc statistics.

Really, if you think TI's corruption index really reflects the extent of corruption in all of society rather than just a particular segment, then I'm left speechless.

Have you ever lived in Bangladesh? Do you know everytime you want to get something done with the police you have to give bribe? To get admitted in public hospital you have to bribe or you might not get a bed, in university/ college you have to bribe. If you get caught cheating in exam you can give bribe and get away, if you commit a crime then it's very easy to get away if you can pay the price. Ever tried to fight the system? Well then you risk physical harm as well as getting in trouble with the authorities. Freedom of speech? Say what you want as long as you don't offend the rich/ powerful or go against the majority, otherwise consequences will be terrible.Try living in one of the more rural areas and you will see things even more shocking.

[meazz1]

To the outside world, BD is a corrupt country and that's a fact, but there are lots of good people in BD.
Back in 1983, I was in the french embassy in Belgium for visa to France. I was told that no visa for anyone who carries a BD passport.
Moral of the story, a few bad apples can ruin the bunch.

[firstlane]

There is a trend I notice. Some people like to present the country the worst possible way they can to others. By doing that they try to prove that they have the courage to admit it, so they are better and different from the pack. It's kind of like our opposition parties- they scream their lungs out to let the outside world know how bad the county is doing when they are not in power.

[RazabQ]

Stick to the thread topic people! - Mod

[Fazal]

This thread is pretty much liveless. Looks like nothing more to discuss about 'coach issues".

Can we please change the thread title to someting like "our corruption issues" and continue to discuss how corrupted we are compared to the rest of the world.... and ofcourse after thainkg proper clearance to move forward from the MOD.

[Dhakablues]

Originally Posted by Fazal
This thread is pretty much liveless. Looks like nothing more to discuss about 'coach issues".

Can we please change the thread title to someting like "our corruption issues" and continue to discuss how corrupted we are compared to the rest of the world.... and ofcourse after thainkg proper clearance to move forward from the MOD.

Before we do the Akika of the thread,, are there any discussions going on about hiring a new coach? Or that curcial issue just fell through the crack with the elections, WI tour etc. ?

[Gowza]

Originally Posted by Dhakablues
Before we do the Akika of the thread,, are there any discussions going on about hiring a new coach? Or that curcial issue just fell through the crack with the elections, WI tour etc. ?

yep surprised we haven't heard anything about the coach hunt.

[Dilscoop]

When will they get a permanent coach? Did they even make a short list?

They should take notes from the Lakers.

[jeesh]

Still no news. Maybe they will want to make SJ the head coach :P

[BANFAN]

Originally Posted by jeesh
Still no news. Maybe they will want to make SJ the head coach :P

They will probably see the outcome of this series before taking any decision...