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April 15, 2012, 01:12 PM
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The issues in Pakistan is overblown by the media.
It will be in Pakistan's best interest to absolutely make sure nothing goes wrong with this tour. Also, unless the Pak board is ungrateful, this should strengthen our relationship. Even though Kamal is gonna gain directly for short term, hopefully our board gains in the long term - meaning more tours with Pak because we helped them out in their time of crisis.
1 match is crap though. Should have been 3 ODI's.
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April 15, 2012, 02:07 PM
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I like the fixture of the tour. Since we are going regardless of the opinion of the fans/people, I am glad at least we wont be staying there for long. Shorter tour duration will make it easier to ensure maximum security.
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April 15, 2012, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Leafs PWN
1 match is crap though. Should have been 3 ODI's.
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Should have been no ODI
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April 15, 2012, 02:37 PM
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How can such a Pak chamcha like LK be so close to AL leader, doesn't go in my head...
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AL, Jashod, BNP, Muslim League doesn't matter. Politicians switch parties, affiliations if the price is right. Or in some instances if the perceived power is right. ICC president title has clouded the judgment, not that he would get it though. At any cost, doesn't matter the risk. Never had faith on current policians. Be it in BD, USA, UK any where in the world for that matter.
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April 15, 2012, 03:13 PM
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o.O The Fudge is this Sheet? So dose this mean Shak and Tamim will leave IPL for this?
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April 15, 2012, 03:26 PM
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i am utterly disappointed......... in loitta, in our politicians and in the sporting authority. i understand that it is nice to help a good cricketing nation as everyone needs help once in a while. but, to see that loitta is throwing our players under the bus for only his own personal gain somehow makes it completely unacceptable........
i understand shakib and tamim will not be going? but, how about mushy, mashrafee, nasir? are they going? i don't want any of our best players to go (the future of bd cricket will get messed up if something happens to them). but then, we are going to loose big time without our best players......... tanking our rating........ what's the point in risking players' lives when we won't even have the chance to play competetive cricket (without our best players)?
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April 15, 2012, 04:18 PM
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Nothing to be gained from such a tour. Such a short tour won't convince anyone of the security situation. No other side will be willing to tour PAK even if we tour safely. So in the end PCB gains nothing itself and only risks to lose a lot if God forbid something does happen.
I hope that our players refuse to tour and BCB ends up cancelling at the last minute. Don't know how likely that will be, but our players are probably quite p'd off at the board and one can only pray this is the tipping point.
Shameless yes-no-yes game being played by Loitta.
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April 15, 2012, 07:58 PM
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Wow ...after all that, they decided to tour Pakistan?
Silver lining-- its a short tour !
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April 15, 2012, 07:59 PM
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It's funny how many of you were complaining of lack of cricket for few months and now that we get some action all you moaning. I dnt see India helping even a little bit, so how can we be on their friends list. I wudnt wana be their friend.
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April 15, 2012, 08:00 PM
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I want to see Ashraful bat and bowl.
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April 15, 2012, 08:02 PM
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Players should be give the choice on this one, who wants go can go, no one should be forced.
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April 15, 2012, 08:06 PM
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Ghaddafi Stadium - Lahore.
Now guys, don't jump at that name - please.
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April 15, 2012, 09:23 PM
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Two Points:
1) If LK thinks that it is safe to tour, then he should lead the tour. He should stay in the same hotel where players stay, ride on the same bus the players ride, eat at the same restaurants where the players eat, fly on the same plane players fly, etc. He should be with players 24/7.
2) This short series doesn’t benefit us. I would have preferred a longer series played in Dubai and only one 20/20 played in Lahore. In addition,we should have demanded them to visit us again when our schedule is open.
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April 16, 2012, 12:16 AM
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Unbelievable! Hope we all come back safely.
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April 16, 2012, 01:32 AM
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April 16, 2012, 01:41 AM
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পাকিসà§à¦¤à¦¾à¦¨ সফর নিয়ে করà§à¦®à¦•à¦°à§à¦¤à¦¾à¦¦à§‡à¦° মধà§à¦¯à§‡ মিশà§à¦° পà§à¦°à¦¤à¦¿à¦•à§à¦°à¦¿à§Ÿà¦¾!
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বাংলানিউজটোয়েনà§à¦Ÿà¦ ¿à¦«à§‹à¦°.কম
ঢাকা: বাংলাদেশ কà§à¦°à¦¿à¦•à§‡à¦Ÿ বোরà§à¦¡ (বিসিবি) করà§à¦®à¦•à¦°à§à¦¤à¦¾à¦¦à§‡à¦° অনেকে à¦à¦–নো বিশà§à¦¬à¦¾à¦¸ করেন শেষপরà§à¦¯à¦¨à§à¦¤ পাকিসà§à¦¤à¦¾à¦¨à§‡ যাবে না কà§à¦°à¦¿à¦•à§‡à¦Ÿ দল। তাদের বিশà§à¦¬à¦¾à¦¸à§‡à¦° à¦à¦¿à¦¤ তৈরি হয়েছে মূলত খেলা পরিচালনার জনà§à¦¯ আইসিসির কাছে মà§à¦¯à¦¾à¦š অফিসিয়াল চাওয়ায়।
বিসিবি পরিচালক সিরাজউদà§à¦¦à¦¿à¦¨ মোহামà§à¦®à¦¦ আলমগীর বাংলানিউজকে বললেনও, ‘আইসিসি তো নতà§à¦¨ করে কিছৠবলেনি। বাংলাদেশ পাকিসà§à¦¤à¦¾à¦¨à§‡ যেতে চায় à¦à¦¬à¦‚ পাকিসà§à¦¤à¦¾à¦¨ সিরিজ আয়োজন করতে চায়। সে জনà§à¦¯ আইসিসিকে অনà§à¦°à§‹à¦§ করা হয়েছে খেলা পরিচালনা করতে মà§à¦¯à¦¾à¦š অফিসিয়াল নিয়োগ দেওয়ার জনà§à¦¯à¥¤ আইসিসিও পাকিসà§à¦¤à¦¾à¦¨à§‡à¦° কাছে নিরাপতà§à¦¤à¦¾ পরিকলà§à¦ªà¦¨à¦¾ জানতে চেয়েছে। সব কিছৠপরীকà§à¦·à¦¾-নীরিকà§à¦·à¦¾ করে দেখার পর আইসিসি আমà§à¦ªà¦¾à§Ÿà¦¾à¦°, মà§à¦¯à¦¾à¦š রেফারি à¦à¦¬à¦‚ দà§à¦°à§à¦¨à§€à¦¤à¦¿ দমন বিà¦à¦¾à¦—ের করà§à¦®à¦•à¦°à§à¦¤à¦¾à¦¦à§‡à¦° পাঠাতে নাও রাজি হতে পারে। বিসিবি সà¦à¦¾à¦ªà¦¤à¦¿ তো আগেই বলেছেন, আইসিসির সাধারণ নিয়মের আওতায় মà§à¦¯à¦¾à¦š পরিচালনার জনà§à¦¯ অফিসিয়াল নিয়োগ না দিলে আমরা পাকিসà§à¦¤à¦¾à¦¨ যাবো না। আমার মনে হয় যে কথাগà§à¦²à§‹ বলা হচà§à¦›à§‡ তা আগেও বলা হয়েছে।’
আরেক পরিচালক গাজী আশরাফ হোসেন লিপৠকোন মনà§à¦¤à¦¬à§à¦¯ করতে চাননি। তিনি বাংলানিউজকে জানান, ‘খবরটা আমি শà§à¦¨à§‡à¦›à¦¿à¥¤ à¦à¦¬à¦¿à¦·à§Ÿà§‡ বিসিবি সà¦à¦¾à¦ªà¦¤à¦¿à¦‡ à¦à¦¾à¦²à§‹ বলতে পারবেন।’à¦à§à¦à¦•à¦¿ নিতে চাইলেন না বিসিবির সিনিয়র সহ-সà¦à¦¾à¦ªà¦¤à¦¿ মাহাবà§à¦¬à§à¦² আনামও, ‘আমি কিছৠবলতে পারবো না। আইসিসির মেইল থেকে আমিও খবরটা পড়েছি।’
বিসিবি মিডিয়া কমিটির চেয়ারমà§à¦¯à¦¾à¦¨ জালাল ইউনà§à¦¸ কà§à¦°à¦¿à¦•à¦‡à¦¨à¦«à§‹à¦•à§‡ বলেছেন, ‘জাকা আশরাফের আনà§à¦·à§à¦ ানিক সফরের পর দà§à¦‡-তিন মাস হয় à¦à¦¨à¦¿à§Ÿà§‡ কোন আলোচনা হয় নি। পà§à¦°à¦¥à¦® থেকেই বিষয়টি নিয়ে বà§à¦¯à¦•à§à¦¤à¦¿à¦—ত পরà§à¦¯à¦¾à§Ÿ থেকে কাজ করছেন বিসিবি সà¦à¦¾à¦ªà¦¤à¦¿à¥¤ আমার মনে হয় সরকারের অবসà§à¦¥à¦¾à¦¨ জানার পর তিনি আনà§à¦·à§à¦ ানিক সিদà§à¦§à¦¾à¦¨à§à¦¤ জানিয়েছেন।’
বিসিবির à¦à¦¾à¦°à¦ªà§à¦°à¦¾à¦ªà§à¦¤ পà§à¦°à¦§à¦¾à¦¨ নিরà§à¦¬à¦¾à¦¹à§€ করà§à¦®à¦•à¦°à§à¦¤à¦¾ নিজামউদà§à¦¦à¦¿à¦¨ চৌধà§à¦°à§€ সাংবাদিকদের বলেছেন, ‘আমার যেটা মনে হয় সরকারের যে পরà§à¦¯à¦¾à§Ÿ থেকে ছাড়পতà§à¦° লাগে সেখান থেকে সমà§à¦®à¦¤à¦¿ পাওয়ার পরই তিনি à¦à¦‡ সিদà§à¦§à¦¾à¦¨à§à¦¤à§‡à¦° কথা জানিয়েছেন।’বোরà§à¦¡ পরিচালক à¦à¦¬à¦‚ সà§à¦Ÿà¦¾à¦«à¦¦à§‡à¦° মধà§à¦¯à§‡ মিশà§à¦° পà§à¦°à¦¤à¦¿à¦•à§à¦°à¦¿à§Ÿà¦¾ থাকলেও নিরà§à¦à¦°à¦¯à§‹à¦—à§à¦¯ সূতà§à¦° জানিয়েছে, বাংলাদেশ দল পাকিসà§à¦¤à¦¾à¦¨ সফরে যাবে। à¦à¦¨à¦¿à§Ÿà§‡ কোন সনà§à¦¦à§‡à¦¹ নেই। à¦à¦¾à¦°à¦¤à§‡à¦° মনোà¦à¦¾à¦¬ জানার পরই আনà§à¦·à§à¦ ানিক ঘোষণা দিয়েছেন বিসিবি সà¦à¦¾à¦ªà¦¤à¦¿à¥¤ ইংলà§à¦¯à¦¾à¦¨à§à¦¡ কà§à¦°à¦¿à¦•à§‡à¦Ÿ বোরà§à¦¡ (ইসিবি)’র কাছ থেকেও সমà§à¦®à¦¤à¦¿ আদায়ের à¦à¦•à¦Ÿà¦¾ চেষà§à¦Ÿà¦¾ মোসà§à¦¤à¦«à¦¾ কামাল করেছেন বলে সূতà§à¦° জানিয়েছে।
সব ঠিক থাকলে ২ৠà¦à¦ªà§à¦°à¦¿à¦² পাকিসà§à¦¤à¦¾à¦¨à§‡ যাবে বাংলাদেশ দল। জাতীয় দলের কয়েকজন কà§à¦°à¦¿à¦•à§‡à¦Ÿà¦¾à¦°à¦•à§‡ সে à¦à¦¾à¦¬à§‡à¦‡ পà§à¦°à¦¸à§à¦¤à§à¦¤ থাকাতে বলেছেন বিসিবি সà¦à¦¾à¦ªà¦¤à¦¿à¥¤ লাহোরের গাদà§à¦¦à¦¾à¦«à¦¿ সà§à¦Ÿà§‡à¦¡à¦¿à§Ÿà¦¾à¦®à§‡ ২৯ ও ৩০ à¦à¦ªà§à¦°à¦¿à¦² à¦à¦•à¦Ÿà¦¿ ওয়ানডে à¦à¦¬à¦‚ à¦à¦•à¦Ÿà¦¿ টি-টোয়েনà§à¦Ÿà¦¿ মà§à¦¯à¦¾à¦š হবে। যেখানে ২০০৯ সালে শà§à¦°à§€à¦²à¦™à§à¦•à¦¾ কà§à¦°à¦¿à¦•à§‡à¦Ÿ দলের ওপর সনà§à¦¤à§à¦°à¦¾à¦¸à§€ হামলা হয়েছিলো। à¦à¦°à¦ªà¦° থেকে নিরà§à¦¬à¦¾à¦¸à¦¨à§‡ যায় পাকিসà§à¦¤à¦¾à¦¨à§‡à¦° আনà§à¦¤à¦°à§à¦œà¦¾à¦¤à¦¿à¦• কà§à¦°à¦¿à¦•à§‡à¦Ÿà¥¤ বাংলাদেশ দল সংকà§à¦·à¦¿à¦ªà§à¦¤ সফরে গেলেও তিন বছর পর দেশের মাঠে আনà§à¦¤à¦°à§à¦œà¦¾à¦¤à¦¿à¦• কà§à¦°à¦¿à¦•à§‡à¦Ÿ উপà¦à§‹à¦—ের সà§à¦¯à§‹à¦— পাবেন পাকিসà§à¦¤à¦¾à¦¨à§‡à¦° মানà§à¦·à¥¤
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April 16, 2012, 02:31 AM
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Bangladesh XI for the Pakistan Tour
1. Lotus Kamal
2. Lotus Kamal
3. Lotus Kamal
4. Lotus Kamal
5. Lotus Kamal
6. Lotus Kamal
7. Lotus Kamal
8. Lotus Kamal
9. Lotus Kamal
10. Lotus Kamal
11. Mohammad Ashraful
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April 16, 2012, 02:56 AM
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send our faltu players liek shahadat ashraful and rokibul send oru second steak team not the main team
lolz
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April 16, 2012, 03:29 AM
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So it seems we are touring Pak without a coach. This should be interesting.
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April 16, 2012, 03:36 AM
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Plus why do you want to make BCCI go against you?
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Why do/should we care?
Both PCB and BCCI act for their own interests, unlike BCB (Kamal - Tutul gang who only prioritise themselves over national interests).
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April 16, 2012, 03:39 AM
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send our faltu players liek shahadat ashraful and rokibul send oru second steak team not the main team
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Why!? Sorry, I have failed to understand ... ^^^
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April 16, 2012, 03:41 AM
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Bangladesh XI for the Pakistan Tour
1. Lotus Kamal
2. Lotus Kamal
3. Lotus Kamal
4. Lotus Kamal
5. Lotus Kamal
6. Lotus Kamal
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I like (as it is Mr. Kamal who is ...)
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11. Mohammad Ashraful
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I don't like!
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April 16, 2012, 03:44 AM
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Players should be give the choice on this one, who wants go can go, no one should be forced.
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Well said Mahmood bhai.
Yes, that's the way it should be...
No player/s should be forced to go.
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Best possible option to rattle the politician is ask him to travel in the same bus as players , stay in the same hotel in the room next to where players stay and make them sit in players dugout.
Bangladesh needs competitive cricket in that point it makes sense but 1 odi 1 t20 just doesn't cut it, somebody is seriously in need of brain.
Hope everything goes well. Make sure your players are given same level of security as given to US president or Indian Prime minister.Best of luck
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^ where's the like button when you need one?
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