Supporting our own country

[fan_frm_the_uk]

For the last few days we hav been sharing a lot of thoughts, arguments regarding afro-asian series. Some had +tive ideas while some had -tive. But 1 thing 4 sure, its not possible to mek any conclusion with these arguments.

I used 2 turn my PC on 2 check if ash/mash playing and spent the rest of the day mentioning the wildest words towards the management. But, all I did was frustated myself and I think most of us making the same mistake.

Think, its the players who can mek it. How it wud be, if Ash smashes srilanka on this tour, then India and pakistan? Imagine, Mashrafe ripping through the bating order. Infact it cud be any1 in the team. Caz its not only Ash 'n Mash, its our country been insulted and we hav 2 earn the word "respect" from our opponents. So, the responsibilty belongs 2 every1.

fans, plz dont tek me wrong if it seems I m sugesting we hav nothing to do, we dont hav any responsibilities to maintain. we do hav. And that is y, i opened this thread 2day.

I m not 1 of the oldest member of this forum, still i was able 2 notice few members always hav heart 4 BD, always protested if som1 said anythin wrong about us. even I myself use my stock of (*) words towards them. Un4tunately, i also found, its not the heart that all of us hav. I strongly agree we all lov our country and i m not saying BD team is the most perfect ( I wud like to c ppl making sensible coment, criticism gotto b realistic and justified).

We protest those critics, but how many of us really believe we can do it??? dont we hav fans, having no faith on our players?? dont we hav fans, who dont belive in our own ability?? Now, som1 plz answer me, how we can do it, if we think we cant do it?? If we keep criticising our palyers, those ppl r not wrong doing that.

i am not saying we hav 2 support BD blindly, we must criticise, show our emotion, but thr sud be som reason (its not Ash who scored a golden duck, remember Gibbs dropped the catch of S waugh, they still kept faith on him). If we can love it, hav the rite 2 show our emotions, but if we dont, y do we bother put more shame on our team by making those comments? (only becaz AUS, if it was PAK again, I m sure som1 must doubt a rat in there)

To all BD fans, I leave just few questions, is it what we want our team just keep winning and earning respect and we just wait till they make any mistake and we can raise our voice again? or, how it wud be, if our players feel proud to represent us? do we only want 2 be a good team only, or we want to be the most fancied criket fans alover the world? Can u deny our responsibilities?

The decision is yours.................

[cricman]

I don't understand what your trying to say, Are you saying we criticize our players too much or that we praise our players too much?

[aosaif]

umm...ok....there is communication difficulty here. Maybe it's just me. Apparently I lack something.....something to do with cricket.....umm....bangladesh....support....and eh....well....hmm

[Fazal]

Originally posted by fan_frm_the_uk
The decision is yours.................

Khaise ... What I have done? which decision? What I have to do now? I read it 3 times.... I am clueless .... is this some kind of trick question? need some help please!

[akabir77]

We need matrix for this to understand...

[zia]

We need to support and criticize BD rationally. Is it? I am not sure.

[Zobair]

my friend! you are trying to say too many things at once

Basically, he are disappointed with the reaction of the fans? You feel they don't support the team come hell or high water? Am I right?

[Shubho]

Anti-consonant miya (aka fan from the uk),

I would estimate that 99% of the forum members are absolutely clueless about what you are trying to say.

Next time, could you please have your texts proof-read? I am sure you have a lot of good ideas to share, but those ideas are lost on us if no-one understands them.

Just a suggestion.

Thank you for your kind attention. :-)

[Zunaid]

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[aosaif]

that clarify's the situation......totally

may i ask which font you used? it's interesting

[aosaif]

hey fan from uk

dont get too discouraged because of our relatively irrelevant replies.....take some time to cool off.....then come back and give us your insight into our cricket. By then we will have forgotten the whole chichuation.

[rafiq]

this is what can happen with too much short messaging and not being able to make the leap back to the way the written word used to be written.

[Zunaid]

Originally posted by aosaif
that clarify's the situation......totally

may i ask which font you used? it's interesting

It's one of those early net (pre web) translators - such as valley girl, swedish chef et al.

This one is called Ultra Leek.

Some you cans till find here:

http://www.degraeve.com/translator.php

Who here is old enough to know rot13?

Back to topic:

[jabbar]

I think he's trying to say dis:

"Ppl of banglacricket! Lend me yr ears!
We mst nt say bad things to BD players! This is bad thing! We must ALWAYS say good tings! Evn wen thy play very bad!"

[sunny747]

Sorry friend, i couldnt' get anything out of that article......but that doesn't mean that i'm discouraging you.....i guess u have plenty of things to say but please do write it in proper english........
i'm actually a BIG chagol and find it really hard to comprehend funky short text like this sud, caz,hav,wud....

[fan_frm_the_uk]

Dear friends,

I feel sory, as i cundt mek my points clear 2 u all. I agree, we all love BD, but my complain was all of us don't believe in our own ability. we mek laugh on our own team. For example, few days ago, som1 said, this Srilanka tour will bring us down 2 the earth. May b, we will loose all the matches, but if we keep thinking like that we r never going 2 win. Even after scoring a duck in the first match, som ppl said, he doesnt deserve to b in Asia 11. he was given a chance, he wasted it. So, wat the great hav done shewag, afridi, youhana. how well did afridi do???? Som will say, afridi is much better than Ash. Well, as an alrounder, yes. as a batsman, dont u think Ash is better?

Zunaid, being a official of this forum, u made a joke of me, copying my words in som sort of comic fonts. At least, u sud understand , i was saying positive things of our team. This is the sort of mentality, i am against of.

I said, if it's our team's responsibility to perform well, its our responsibility to giv them proper support. Agree, we hav lot of support. But, do we really hav the confidence we need?

I just tried to point, we sud keep believing we can do better, BD will not beat AUS regularly, but if they try there is always a chance of good fight.

By saying "The decision is yours?" i tried 2 mean, It's a time 2 think wat I hav said, and decide wheather we sud hav confidence on our own team, or we keep thinking we never can b good.

[sunny747]

NOt trying to be offensive...i still couldn't understand what u were trying to mean...............sorry..

[ejaj_a]

I think it is easy to criticise someone's opinion. Not everybody is good writer and able to explain what they really meant. But I dont think it's a rocket science to understand what Mr. fan_frm_the_uk tried to say. Even though he had inially brought up lots of issues without giving finishing touch. However, my understanding is he meant we shudn't criticise our team or individual players for their worst showing. We can debate on this whether we shud criticise or not but pretending that we completely didn't understand what he "fan_frm_the_uk" meant bit of harsh on him. Give this guy a break ppl.

Edited on, August 23, 2005, 11:41 AM GMT, by ejaj_a.
Reason: reduced double spacing

[newbie]

Originally posted by ejaj_a
I think it is easy to criticise someone's opinion. Not everybody is good writer and able to explain what they really meant. But I dont think it's a rocket science to understand what Mr. fan_frm_the_uk tried to say. Even though he had inially brought up lots of issues without giving finishing touch. However, my understanding is he meant we shudn't criticise our team or individual players for their worst showing. We can debate on this whether we shud criticise or not but pretending that we completely didn't understand what he "fan_frm_the_uk" meant bit of harsh on him. Give this guy a break ppl.

Edited on, August 23, 2005, 11:41 AM GMT, by ejaj_a.
Reason: reduced double spacing

I agree with ejaz_a. I also think the reception of a newcomer to the forum was quite harsh.

[allrounder]

yes lets criticise BanglaCricket members who criticised fan_frm_the_uk for critisizing BD fans who criticise BD team and players and show their support for BD team without confidence or believing in them.

[PoorFan]

Ok, now I understand the point fan_frm_the_uk is trying to make. As far I can remember, our Chinaman used to encourage us the same way, because we always were upset and whining on our poor performance in old days. And he was absolutely right as he always said we fans should wait couple of years more, and support our team till they start to perform.

Now, if we have to start criticize BanglaCricket members who criticized fan_frm_the_uk, then I think we should start with Zunaid, and I feel like a fool because I enjoyed it too.

[Baundule]

Originally posted by sunny747
NOt trying to be offensive...i still couldn't understand what u were trying to mean...............sorry..

That's quite harsh!

I guess, I understand fan_frm_the_uk; but man, it is difficult to keep supporting with patience when someone is thrwoing his wicket away and these things happening quite often.

Every1 supports the players; but e1 has the right to criticize. Players themselves should be professional to digest all these stuffs from the fans and live up to the expectations.

Whatever talent Ashraful might be; I won't feel like kissing him after that first ball duck in the Asia vs Africa match!

Edited on, August 23, 2005, 3:34 PM GMT, by Baundule.

[Zunaid]

Originally posted by PoorFan
Now, if we have to start criticize BanglaCricket members who criticized fan_frm_the_uk, then I think we should start with Zunaid, and I feel like a fool because I enjoyed it too.

Feel free - I deserve it any way ...

Sometimes, we all have to vent in different ways. The fan vented and I vented at the fan for a different reasons.

No offense was intended btw but apologies if felt.

[as myself]

[fan_frm_the_uk]

Dear fans,
Thanx 2 u all 4 participating in this discussion. 1 thing 4 sure, we must hav different openions, but wat we think always may not b rite. May b, it was my fault being failed to clear the subject 2 u.

The reson behind it was, i felt, the thread was getting bigger in size, and thr is no point wasting time and storage of the forum. May b, if I added few more words, it wud b more understandable.

I apologise agn, if my thread, meant 2 som1 that we dont love our country. We do. As som1 said, I m suggesting keep saying good only. for eaxmple-

Originally posted by jabbar
I think he's trying to say dis:

"Ppl of banglacricket! Lend me yr ears!
We mst nt say bad things to BD players! This is bad thing! We must ALWAYS say good tings! Evn wen thy play very bad!"

If you read my thread carefully, havnt I said, thr must be criticism, but it sud b reasonable?? havnt I agree, we r not the most perfect team?

It was my failure 2 mek everything clear, but, if som1 meks any comment without reading the thread properly, who's fault is that?? I never said, we need 2 support them blindly.

To those, who r still in dark, i mek it clear, i just wanted our fans 2 stop meking unfair comments on our team. I am not saying to award them even if they score a duck, I just wanted to stop saying "We can't do it". I wanted 2 say, we sud hav the mentality, if we keep trying, may b we r not winning now, but we will win 1 day.

once again, thank u all. apologise 2 those, who think i m wrong.

[imran78]

i would probably try to understand what you are saying if you stoppped using this irritating kind of spelling and punctuation style.

please
its not mek its make
not agn but again
not som1 but someone
not dis but this
not may b but maybe
not sud but should

i have seen this kind of spelling from some other teenagers too. it does not make you look cool but illiterate. not to mention it gives me a headache trying to read through it.

*annoyed at having to read through that*