Did you feel as thrilled in defeating this Pakistani team as you'd feel in case of other big teams??

[zman]

Originally Posted by tanvir_nus
Many people have been saying how this Pakistani team isn't the best, etc etc. First of all, they have the same if not better bowling attack with Ajmal, Junayed returning, then they have Mohammed Hafeez returning as well in their batting. Fawad Alam was wanted by each and every Pakistani in the WC instead of Yasir shah or someone. So this is a very strong lineup they have, strongest they have atm from Pakistan. They dont have a ricky ponting sitting or a shohaib akhter hiding somewhere.

Pak team had 3 performances worth mentioning in the world cup. Win against SA where Sarfraz and Riaz were their top performers, win against Ire where Sarfraz again was the star, Wahab's spirited fight against Aus while Haris bailed them out with the bat. Can't expect Misbah to keep playing forever, he's 40 - Habibul Bashar by comparison is 42 and Waqar Younus 43! It's not physically possible for him to continue playing more than one format. There's good reasons why Afridi retired from ODI's - forget about scoring he doesn't even get wickets anymore. Only format where he still has some value is T20.

Just because we beat them badly now they're a very weak team - i don't get the logic. Fact is there's a new world order and BD is a rising star in that order. There's not much separating BD/Pak/SL/WI/Eng (NZ could probably be added to that list also since their bowling will be vulnerable in spinning conditions sans Vettori). For the sake of argument even if we're to get dismantled by SA/Aus/Ind that doesn't change anything at all. All the other teams would too - remember SL's recent ODI tour of Ind? If not check the scores here: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin...es/790875.html

There's a gulf of difference between the top 2 and then India and the rest. Going back to the strength of Pak team, I'd argue if they hadn't run into Aus in the quarters they probably would've made it to the semi finals or even finals of the world cup, and this team is even stronger.

[Mas_UK25]

Ignore these, Lahori-Logic: we were weak thats why you beat us. They always have things to make up, for their own satisfaction, indenial bunch.

This the best Pakstan team possible. They dont have Steve Smiths, Amlas. Who wernt picked. So they cant moan, this is the best they have atm. And nothing else simple as that.
Their so called full of talents, arnt coming out well enough, hence their panicking, because they always claim Pakistan is full of talents

[Jadukor]

This Pakistan team will eventually get it together and start performing. Its just that they are up against a very settled side from BD where everyone is contributing as a team. We are not dependent on any one or two individuals. This is why we are performing so well now.

[tiger1000]

Originally Posted by Ace of BD
Couldn't agree more. This team is good enuf to beat any great pak team of previous era. But to console, people resort to good times in the past. So let them take consolation to escape from the inevtiable Banglawash and regular spankings from here on....
talking about excitement, india series will be more worth to watch...

...Maybe in the past 10 years, minus the Chuck King. Can't see how we would have a chance vs Imran Khan's 92 team or Wasim Akram/Waqar

But to call this Pak side a weak side, indicates they have a stronger side available but not picked, fact is every team has weak teams, we've had one for quite a long time, finally we have good batting team..

India will destroy us, I'll be shocked if we win 1 game

In Bangladesh I Favour BD over anyone in ODI's, but SA, Aus, India...we're going to have a tough summer

[adamnsu]

From my experience, Pakistanis love criticizing/teasing others while ignoring their own faults.

When we held the openning ceremony of the World Cup, Pakpassion followers were so making fun of the ceremony of how better they could do it. But what they forgot that they werent allowed to hold a single match which was the biggest shame of all.

The more the Pakistanis criticize the Tigers, the even more it makes this thumping enjoyable.

Had enough of Paks calling us and treating us like Chotta Bhais or Brothers. It is an insult when they use that term for us

[horizon]

Originally Posted by tiger1000
...Maybe in the past 10 years, minus the Chuck King. Can't see how we would have a chance vs Imran Khan's 92 team or Wasim Akram/Waqar

But to call this Pak side a weak side, indicates they have a stronger side available but not picked, fact is every team has weak teams, we've had one for quite a long time, finally we have good batting team..

India will destroy us, I'll be shocked if we win 1 game

In Bangladesh I Favour BD over anyone in ODI's, but SA, Aus, India...we're going to have a tough summer

Disagree. I understand it will be tough or at least tougher than playing Pakistan, but I think Bangladesh will get one victory at least against all of those. If India sends their second team (which is most likely to happen given their packed schedule), then Bangladesh can actually win all three series. They have a fair chance.

[zman]

I'm glad Pak is batting well today - I don't care about what Pak folks think but this will make some of our fellow BC-ites realize this Pak team isn't as weak as they've been made out to be and appreciate the series win more! On their day they can hang with the best whether it's the world champion Aussies or the whitewash specialists roaring Tigers , and at the end of the day hopefully we'll prevail once again!

[aklemalp]

Pakistan have always been Pakistan, this team is just capable of playing to the two extremes, highs and lows

[Night_wolf]

Today i will definitely feel thirlled if we beat them..looks like pak is heading towards a big score, and if we win it'll most definitely be a thrilling match

[zman]

^ you guys still gotta cut Pak some slack Last year when they chased down 326, it wasn't only Shehzad and Afridi that performed. Hafeez scored a half century and Fawad scored a better than run a ball 74 and pretty much took them to the finish line. It's not entirely their fault that our bowling and fielding have improved exponentially since then. I'm obviously not gonna say we'd beat Imran's Pak team or Ponting's Aussie team, but what we have is one of the best teams when it comes to closing the deal on a whitewash. I've never seen another team that raises their game the same way the tigers do when they are presented with the opportunity. I'm not saying it'll happen for sure but if somehow Ind or SA got into that situation against us, I'd not bet a single penny on us getting beaten.

[zman]

this is exactly what I was talking about

[adamnsu]

Allhamdullilah. Parle please extra dua rakat namaz poren shobai!

[Roey Haque]

Originally Posted by Max100
so you are upset that we had such a strong performances.

the player u mentioned

mohammad amir--- banned 5 years ago for spot fixing
misbah--old and retired and pak fan always blame him for slow run rate
younis--- he is burden for the team and dropped even from wc squad
afridi-- old, retired, off form

present squad

azhar ali--- performed in both matches
sarfraz--- best performer for pak in wc and MOM and in good form
haris sohail--- he performed in wc and against BD
saad nasim-- brilliant performance in 2nd ODI
wahab riaz--- top 5 bowler in WC
saeed ajmal--- how many pakistani cried for his inclusion in WC?he was their best bowler for last 5 years
rizwan--- one of top performer in 1st match
junaed-- pak's first choice bowler
rahat ali--- he just could nt perform against BD, he is regular in last few series
fawad alam-- people cried for his inclusion in WC , even want him to be pak captain and he is in best form in all format and dropped in wc for no reason
Hafeez--- he was their captain and best allrounder for last several years


except rahat ali--which player you would have dropped?

dont bring old retired player in the squad like washim akram, waqar younis, injamam in the team. they are gone and will not make up pak XI. this is pakistan's best possible squad, even its better than their WC squad.

we are just briliant and confident. so be happy with tiger performances

Perfect response.

[tamzid90]

Nothing better than Banglawash...MAUKA next up

[Max100]

Originally Posted by simon
I felt no thrill, yes just happy.
It would have been thrilling if this team had Misbah,Afridi/shehzad which is why I'm excited abt the test series .

Let's admit one thing, this year we have beaten a demoralized Eng, some associates and an inexperienced Pak side.
I'm thrilled bout the big challenges ahead like the Test series and Ind,Aus, SA.

if some one ask you before the series starts, who would u like to replace from the main XI with this 3?

[zman]

Originally Posted by prtikul
Congrats guys, Beating Pakistan in LOIs is pretty big deal.

I don't think we ever managed to win all games in a series against them. Probably 4-1 in 2006 was our best result. We almost lost 3 games against them in India in last series.

I don't know why BCCI sends B team to Bangladesh. Your team is formidable in LOIs in home condition. Similar result will happen if there is complacency even if we playing with our main team let alone B team.

Now this is from someone who clearly has a good understanding of the game and its history! I'm quoting this from the match thread (Post #1200).

[zman]

Here's a link to the Ind - Pak ODI series that was played in Ind, where Pak dominated the first two matches and barely lost the third one:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin...es/589304.html

Only player that seems to be missing from that squad yet worth mentioning is Nasir Jamshed. He had a Tamim-esque series. Does anyone know what happened to him?

[DJ Sahastra]

Win nonetheless and an epic one at that not withstanding , i must confess i didn't enjoy this Banglawash as much as i would've enjoyed, lets say, if BD had won that close match against Pakistan in the Asia cup.

This series whitewash rung a little hollow, in part because of a non-descript team from Pakistan that was seriously lacking in their big name match-winners or prodigies. This series seemed somewhat like a bully thumping a baby that is yet to develop a teeth.

[tiger1000]

Originally Posted by horizon
Disagree. I understand it will be tough or at least tougher than playing Pakistan, but I think Bangladesh will get one victory at least against all of those. If India sends their second team (which is most likely to happen given their packed schedule), then Bangladesh can actually win all three series. They have a fair chance.

I don't like our chances vs their first team, I was one of the few that thought we should win the series against Pak - didn't think we'll destroy them, but would have been shocked if Pak won the series.

India, I don't like our chances vs the first team, vs 2nd team, we should win

[horizon]

Originally Posted by tiger1000
I don't like our chances vs their first team, I was one of the few that thought we should win the series against Pak - didn't think we'll destroy them, but would have been shocked if Pak won the series.

India, I don't like our chances vs the first team, vs 2nd team, we should win

India has a queue of series to play this year. So they will probably send their second team. As per the FTP, India will play a test match in Dhaka. They haven't confirmed any ODI yet.

[Tigers_eye]

Originally Posted by tiger1000
I don't like our chances vs their first team, ...

Did we beat them before with their first team playing? Are their current team better than those teams? Certainly ours are much much better side than the ones who won against them.

[horizon]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Did we beat them before with their first team playing? Are their current team better than those teams? Certainly ours are much much better side than the ones who won against them.

Indian current team is definitely better than the ones beaten earlier in 2012 and 2007. Same is true for Bangladesh. Same way Bangladesh current team lost to an Indian side that's much worse than main Indian team. You can pick and choose your logic.

[Zeeshan]

Am I the only one who feels this natural post match high? Traffic jam becomes bodhi tree, insults become rose petals, and bed of nails tempurpedic mattress.

Pitch us your article about highs and joys after the recent whitewash. Pitch please.

[Mas_UK25]

Originally Posted by horizon
India has a queue of series to play this year. So they will probably send their second team. As per the FTP, India will play a test match in Dhaka. They haven't confirmed any ODI yet.

I hope they send their a side or b side, because Tigers have grown and will tear them apart.

But I dont think India will risk it, BCCI never whitewashed Pakistan. Let them send anything; we'll smash them at home especially if they send team like last time, INSHALLAH. Yes call me ARROGANT. BUT THIS IS TIGERS DEN! We have to intimidate opponents, make this a real fortress, InshAllah.

[adamnsu]

I think the roll and the confidence that BD, might be an interesting contest. However I hope the BD players dont get too complacent with the recent dholai they did to Paks.

I really would like to see a contest bwteen Rubel and Kholi is it happens. There is a bit of rivalary there.