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Old April 19, 2006, 09:29 AM
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Default Ashraful!!!!

Looks like our very talented Ashraful did it again. I am so pissed of and disgusted right now . There was no need to play that dumb/risky unnecessary shot only 4 overs before the stump. He didn't learn in 4 years and I doubt that will change in future. Ashraful needs to be dropped from the test squad....it's that simple. Not because he isn't scoring runs .....but the ways he is getting out in the worst possible time.... totally irresponsible. As long as we consider Ashraful a great test batsman for BD, our standard will remain very poor indeed. scoring a great 100 once in a blue moon may unfortunately keep him in the team, but it will not help BD team to move forward. The day we will be able to discard this kind of useless talent casually (cause we have other options), we will be strong enough to compete against the big boys. I will always be looking forward to that day.
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Old April 19, 2006, 09:33 AM
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I agree, Ashra 'da' fool needs to go...
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Old April 19, 2006, 09:34 AM
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actually he was looking quite good... didn't see how he got out though... very unfortunate.... it looked like he is set for a big score... but thats what always happen... he looks good and then he gets out
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Old April 19, 2006, 09:47 AM
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actually he was looking quite good... didn't see how he got out though... very unfortunate.... it looked like he is set for a big score... but thats what always happen... he looks good and then he gets out
He does always look good for a little while and that's why I think he is still a good option for our ODI team. But he is an awful test player. Last night he tried to sweep (it was a half *** sweep attempt) and got bowled. When you have only 4 overs left you gotta play front foot and straight against the spinners. There was no need to try that sweep shot when there wasn't any playable shot to begin with. It happens to every player every now and then. But if you keep making the same mistake day after day for 4 years, a century once in a blue moon doesn't make up for it.
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Old April 19, 2006, 09:51 AM
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I can't resist to copy what I wrote earlier:

I want to reiterate my earlier comments on Ashraful - this kid has skills/talents, but no cricketing knowledge/temperament of any sort. Nobody slog sweeps in a test match when there are only 4 overs to go!
Before he got out, he repeatedly poked outside off stumps, and on one occassion played an identical shot where he was out in the first inning. Luckily this time it was between two slip fielders. There are other examples of his utter foolishness.
From cricketing sense, I believe he is one of the (if not 'the') dumbest front-line batsman test cricket has ever seen
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Old April 19, 2006, 10:17 AM
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Ashraful is definitely lacking temperment... He is tries to play a shot every ball. I don't understand why does he have to play so many shots. I hope he can figure out his game sooner than later... until then we fans will suffer.
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Old April 19, 2006, 10:24 AM
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he has no cricket sense. he is an idiot, who does not know the value of his wicket.he keeps making same mistakes over and over again. and our selectors are still hoping that some day his day will come and he will do some thing extra ordinary. in this team we need some players who can score regularly not just a hundred and flop 7-8 matches.

we are only blaming JO. but this guy seriously needs some lessons to learn
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Old April 19, 2006, 10:24 AM
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"actually he was looking quite good" He was looking good because he was dropped.That's what I've been watching Ashraful since his test debut - he can't score to 20/30 if he's not dropped on 10/15, he can't score a fifty if he's not dropped twice on 10/15s and then on 20/30s, and then he can't score a test century if he's not dropped 3 times - once in 10/15s, second time on 20/30s so that he can go to his 50 and then third time when he's on 60/70s.And when he does not get dropped a single time, he can't score a century.THIS IS THE STORY OF ASHRAFUL'S LIFE. I just can't think why our selectors do not consider the dropped catches in case of Ashraful.I also can't see why our selectors make double standards. When it comes to Aftab, they're so easily saying that Aftab is a One Day player, but when players like Shahriar Nafees, Ashraful, even Javed Omar plays rash shots like a One Day match, they're not pressurized to play a test match like a test match. I guess if they had done that, then our team would have been full of Rajin Salehs and Khaled Mashuds - less talented, but actual performers.
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Old April 19, 2006, 10:39 AM
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ashraful plays one foolish shot in every 20-25 balls, if he doesn't get out he stays about another 20-25 balls before playing another rash shot if he is lucky that time he survives for another 20-25 balls and then plays another stupid shot and if it lands in no mans land then there are few balls for him to play another mistiming until he gets out. and this is how he plays.

he should be dropped down ther order to slog in the end of the innings
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Old April 19, 2006, 10:42 AM
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i would like to see him dropped from both test and odi squad. he reminds me the math of that stupid monkey who climbs an oily bamboo one foot then slips back two foot. now how long it will take him to be a responsible and dependable player - never!
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Old April 19, 2006, 10:42 AM
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I didn't see it but it looks like warne had more to with it than Ash

49.6 Warne to Ashraful, out Bowled!! bowled down the leg and spun back, Ashraful looks to play it fine but his timber is rattled round his legs, great delivery!! Ashraful completely foxed on that occasion
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Old April 19, 2006, 10:44 AM
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I remember his interview when he got out cheaply against Kenya. What he said was that it was the fault of Kenyan bowler that he got out. His explanation was that the ball lacked pace and his "crazy" shot didn't fly over the boundary. Instead it became a catch! He added "had it been the Australians, it would have gone over the boundary as the ball would have been faster!"

If this is the way he thinks, then how can we afford to have him play for the team?
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Old April 19, 2006, 10:51 AM
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I didn't see it but it looks like warne had more to with it than Ash

49.6 Warne to Ashraful, out Bowled!! bowled down the leg and spun back, Ashraful looks to play it fine but his timber is rattled round his legs, great delivery!! Ashraful completely foxed on that occasion
That was not a great ball but ashraful made it. he could have played it on front foot defensive shot instead he played some kind of a sweap (don't know the exact name of that shot) shot
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Old April 19, 2006, 10:53 AM
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I remember his interview when he got out cheaply against Kenya. What he said was that it was the fault of Kenyan bowler that he got out. His explanation was that the ball lacked pace and his "crazy" shot didn't fly over the boundary. Instead it became a catch! He added "had it been the Australians, it would have gone over the boundary as the ball would have been faster!"

If this is the way he thinks, then how can we afford to have him play for the team?
Even my little brother wouldn't give an excuse like that... he needs to grow up
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Old April 19, 2006, 10:54 AM
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Ashraful will come back in bang in the test arena (because he has one year ahead to build his temperament). I have no doubt in that, he is a batsman with immense potential its the temperament which is lacking.

Now Ashraful need some good innings in ODI (match winning) to seal his place in the world cup squad. As we will be only playing ODI next one year it is very important for him to do good in ODI. Selectors have their faith on Ash in ODI squad and definitely he will perform there as his style of play really more suits ODI.
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I didn't see it but it looks like warne had more to with it than Ash

49.6 Warne to Ashraful, out Bowled!! bowled down the leg and spun back, Ashraful looks to play it fine but his timber is rattled round his legs, great delivery!! Ashraful completely foxed on that occasion
haha....... I wish I had a clip for you.. so you could judge for yourself. That ball didn't really turn that much... plus he tried to direct the ball towards fine leg.. wasn't even a good sweep attempt.. totally missed the line. Trust me I have seen it live and there wasn't anything special. I guess the commentator just loves to glorify warne. Anyway, that's not the point.....the point is he shouldn't be playing a sweep shot at that time of the day unless absolutely sure about that delivery. Sweep shot always has high reward along with high risk. There was only 4 overs left.
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Old April 19, 2006, 11:01 AM
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I guess its not the shot but the choice of shot.... SN played sweep all day long and did well.... I guess Ashraful just missed one sweep and it came back to haunt him...
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Old April 19, 2006, 11:03 AM
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That was not a great ball but ashraful made it. he could have played it on front foot defensive shot instead he played some kind of a sweap (don't know the exact name of that shot) shot
It is really quite simple. Any ball pitching outside leg-stump , you just have to pad up as you cannot be given out lbw. There is no need to sweep such a ball as players are waiting to take a catch at backward square leg and deep square leg.

The boy lacks an organ called brain.

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Old April 19, 2006, 11:16 AM
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Last night every body was shouting against Gavaskar for his comment about the temparament of BD players and see what happened today? JO, Ash & Rajin all three of them should try to stick to wkt... Only Basher really got out with a very good ball.
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Old April 19, 2006, 11:18 AM
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Ashrafool is miracle. He is the only one star in the whole universe with his dazzling smile and "stroke" he won so many people's heart. Girls love him. Look alok was loved by SA girls was on his side, now our top models monalisa was side by him. So stop bashing this charming kid. I guess i will fall in love with him, I will go tell my wife right away to give me permission to fall in love with this charming kids' amazing modelling smile and the way he handles his bat.
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Old April 19, 2006, 11:21 AM
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... and how he keeps smiling after playing like crap.....lol.
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Old April 19, 2006, 11:22 AM
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I guess its not the shot but the choice of shot.... SN played sweep all day long and did well.... I guess Ashraful just missed one sweep and it came back to haunt him...
Those who have watched the over live must have seen warne set him up for that. The two previous balls were outside the off stump spunning very little away from the Ash. Then the ball was just outside the leg spunning very slightly and he missed the sweep. The ball hit the stumps. I agree with all of you he shouldn't have played that shot. 4 overs left that was the important thing to consider rather than trying to get his runs. That's not a shot for the team. If anyone reads the match thread they would find how dejected fans were for him to try that shot at that crucial time.
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Old April 19, 2006, 11:47 AM
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did any one know whether he said that warne was bowling too slow? Had it been lee, it would be a four?
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Old April 19, 2006, 11:49 AM
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What angers and frustrates me the most is not that Ash played a 'sweep shot', but more to the point, that he played a 'paddle sweep'. There is a difference. Ash's eagerness to play improvised strokes may look good/come off in ODI's, but in Test matches they look darn-right childish and are undoubtedly detrimental to the teams cause (especially when they do not come off). Those of you that saw the shot today know what I'm talking about. But what infuriates me more is that he tried playing the exact same shot on numerous occasions in the first innings of the 1st Test, and on one of those attempts he almost got out 'head' before wicket - he just doesn't seem to learn!

In addition, our amazing 'ability' to lose the plot just a couple of overs before a lunch/tea break or stumps really frustrates me. How can our batsman not realise that by surviving until the interval - they have the chance to build on their innings after the break? Isn't this far better thought than scoring some quick runs and getting out before the break, thereby placing further undue pressure on your team mates to perform, all due to your own indiscretion.

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Last night every body was shouting against Gavaskar for his comment about the temparament of BD players and see what happened today? JO, Ash & Rajin all three of them should try to stick to wkt... Only Basher really got out with a very good ball.


Also, I strongly disagree with the reference to Rajin Saleh in this post. He could quite possibly be the only batsman in our team with a 'temperament'. Those of you that do not understand what this is - look it up! To save you the time, it is, to my understanding anyway, the ability to stay at the crease for long periods of time without losing focus, and/or playing rash strokes. Sure, Saleh has been out a couple of times to soft dismissals, but these have very little to do with his 'temperament'.

Anyways, I think I've vented enough frustrations for one night. Good night!
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no matter how saleh, Bashar were out, his temperment is out of question. We have seen that on many occassions. Dont ya? It is sad to see him out with so little score. It happens. not everyday.
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