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November 14, 2012, 10:43 AM
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***Official Bangladesh Head Coach Quest Thread***
BCB needs to find a head coach soon. Who do you guys think, who should be made head coach and how should the process be this time around. And has any got information about what is happening or what BCB is planning to do about Coach Hunt? Has anyone got a list of coach’s that are free or available at the moment?
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November 14, 2012, 10:48 AM
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it was rumoured that after the performance in world cup T20 some coach's were supposed to be sacked or relieved of duty. its strange as the rumoured person is the interim head coach now.
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November 16, 2012, 09:15 AM
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I think it's safe to say now that Shane Jurgensen is the best head coach - and after the flurry of wickets last night, the best bowling coach - we've hired in a while. We've gone through several rotations of coaches recently when the best man for the job was right in front of our eyes. We should stick to him and maybe hire Pont as assistant/batting coach.
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November 16, 2012, 09:27 AM
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^Nah ATMR is in his own league.
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November 16, 2012, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
I think it's safe to say now that Shane Jurgensen is the best head coach - and after the flurry of wickets last night, the best bowling coach - we've hired in a while. We've gone through several rotations of coaches recently when the best man for the job was right in front of our eyes. We should stick to him and maybe hire Pont as assistant/batting coach.
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Can't agree more. The truth was there all along. I'll make sure my VISA stamps are up to date and get ready for my new role
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November 16, 2012, 10:08 AM
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Make Mustaque our HC
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November 16, 2012, 10:26 AM
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We don't need to hire any coach.That so called batting coach's are useless.all the Pybus-bypus are a waste.We are doing well without batting coach.BCB Should appoint Jurgensen as a Permanent Head Coach.Former coach Law also suggested his name to appoint as HC.
Otherwise,Mohammad Ashraful is a good choice for the post.
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November 16, 2012, 10:57 AM
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Based on the comments on this thread so far, I am really glad that cricket fans don't get to choose our next head coach. To be sure, the BCB is no good at selecting a coach either, but the level of discourse in this thread is appalling.
My two cents: Hire someone with solid coaching qualifications (e.g. appropriate licenses and many years of experience coaching all levels), NOT a superstar coach or one that was a really good player. Someone who will reside in Bangladesh for the duration of his contract. Someone affordable. Someone NOT from the Subcontinent, particularly not an Indian or Pakistani, because they have a weird superiority complex when it comes to Bangladeshis.
Rick McInnes fits the bill. So does Ian Pont. And Mick Newell. And countless others. I don't understand our fixation with former superstar players. Just because they had stellar playing careers does not mean they know squat about coaching.
In the end, we probably need to be less worried about the head coach of the national team than about the coaching staff at club and regional levels. How cool would it be if we could have a mix of qualified foreign coaches guiding teams like Chittagong, Rangpur or Sylhet in the NCL? Heck, it would be cool if we could have foreign input into cricket academies up and down the country.
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November 16, 2012, 11:42 AM
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November 16, 2012, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian Pont
Can't agree more. The truth was there all along. I'll make sure my VISA stamps are up to date and get ready for my new role
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Thanks coach, you're the best. I'm sure you can turn Ashraful into a more refined, top order version of Naeem and solve our second opener problem for good.
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November 16, 2012, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
Thanks coach, you're the best. I'm sure you can turn Ashraful into a more refined, top order version of Naeem and solve our second opener problem for good.
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Thanks Asif. The Pakistani fans said the same about Imran Nazir and finding a way to get him playing well too. Anamul really blossomed, Mash and Elias Sunny bowled superbly as did MH Rubel. In NZ and Zim series Shafiul previously responded well, Rubel, Nazmul and many others... even Abdur Razzak was almost beating records in 2010 when I was bowling coach (covering spin,too as Saluddin had left months before).
Whether this is about me or not is a moot point. I am always flattered that people say nice things about making a difference very quickly.
What's interesting is we allow coaches "a year or two" to settle in, yet I have always felt you can make positive impacts MENTALLY in a short time. And this is where I feel a coach has most to offer in Bangladesh.
I totally understand Ash, by the way. Even if you were slightly joking in your point, he really does need someone to help him and back him. And like him or loathe him, Rocky is exactly the same.
I don't think I will ever work for the Bangladesh National Team again, but I always enjoy my time spent in Bangladesh.
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November 16, 2012, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian Pont
Can't agree more. The truth was there all along. I'll make sure my VISA stamps are up to date and get ready for my new role
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Not again Ashrafoooll......not again plz.....the guy who failed again and again is going to fail again........we whitewashed NZ ash was not in the team, we runnerup in Asia cup Ash was not in the team, After sudden success we bring back this moron and badluck is going to play his role without any difficulties.
<<<<< >>>>>>> FOR GOD SAKE
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November 16, 2012, 05:12 PM
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Darren Lehmann wouldnt be a bad option either. He is known as a tactical coach.
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November 16, 2012, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian Pont
Thanks Asif. The Pakistani fans said the same about Imran Nazir and finding a way to get him playing well too. Anamul really blossomed, Mash and Elias Sunny bowled superbly as did MH Rubel. In NZ and Zim series Shafiul previously responded well, Rubel, Nazmul and many others... even Abdur Razzak was almost beating records in 2010 when I was bowling coach (covering spin,too as Saluddin had left months before).
Whether this is about me or not is a moot point. I am always flattered that people say nice things about making a difference very quickly.
What's interesting is we allow coaches "a year or two" to settle in, yet I have always felt you can make positive impacts MENTALLY in a short time. And this is where I feel a coach has most to offer in Bangladesh.
I totally understand Ash, by the way. Even if you were slightly joking in your point, he really does need someone to help him and back him. And like him or loathe him, Rocky is exactly the same.
I don't think I will ever work for the Bangladesh National Team again, but I always enjoy my time spent in Bangladesh.
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Will you be coaching again in the BPL coach? I heard that you won't coach Dhaka but any chance you'll coach any other franchise?
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November 16, 2012, 11:25 PM
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A lot will depend on what happens today. A win, and BCB will probably say why do we even need a new head coach. A loss and the hunt can begin.
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November 17, 2012, 02:30 AM
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A lot will depend on what happens today. A win, and BCB will probably say why do we even need a new head coach. A loss and the hunt can begin.
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And the entire lack of BCB cricket knowledge starts right there in that statement
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November 17, 2012, 10:20 AM
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Sorry to say, but Shane Jurgensen is the worst international coach ever, maybe only comparable to Mohsin Kamal. He needs to go, Ian Pont needs to be brought in as head coach. BCB open your eyes, Jurgensen no good.
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November 17, 2012, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
Sorry to say, but Shane Jurgensen is the worst international coach ever, maybe only comparable to Mohsin Kamal. He needs to go, Ian Pont needs to be brought in as head coach. BCB open your eyes, Jurgensen no good.
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November 17, 2012, 03:22 PM
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Time to search for a new Australian... sorry.. Head Coach
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November 17, 2012, 03:36 PM
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Time to search for a new Australian... sorry.. Head Coach
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Hehe, nice to see you got your humor intact. Hey Ian, where would you say the match went downhill yesternight? Do you think the boys went to the shell where they should've played with more positive intent? If Best had so much buy how come Rubel et al, couldn't get anything from the pitch?
And the Rajib thinks he is Bollywood superstar Shahrukh Khan 3.0 of My name is Khan fame. Any comments?
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November 18, 2012, 03:18 AM
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Hehe, nice to see you got your humor intact. Hey Ian, where would you say the match went downhill yesternight? Do you think the boys went to the shell where they should've played with more positive intent? If Best had so much buy how come Rubel et al, couldn't get anything from the pitch?
And the Rajib thinks he is Bollywood superstar Shahrukh Khan 3.0 of My name is Khan fame. Any comments?
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Those are microcosms of what's indicative of issues within the team:
1. Certain players think they are better than they are
2. Some players feel they have 'made it' by simply being in the team
3. As long as some individuals do well, they are not worried if the team lose
4. The team do not believe they can win such matches
5. People confuse aggression and rashness in batting with positive intent
6. Responsibility, understanding and strength of character are sometimes missing
I feel this is why things aren't improving
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November 18, 2012, 09:36 AM
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^ Safe to say, all the above mentioned points with the exception of the 4th, apply to the mighty SN.
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November 18, 2012, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Ian Pont
Those are microcosms of what's indicative of issues within the team:
1. Certain players think they are better than they are
2. Some players feel they have 'made it' by simply being in the team
3. As long as some individuals do well, they are not worried if the team lose
4. The team do not believe they can win such matches
5. People confuse aggression and rashness in batting with positive intent
6. Responsibility, understanding and strength of character are sometimes missing
I feel this is why things aren't improving
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Completely agree with all the points, perfectly said.
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November 24, 2012, 11:40 AM
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Ok so what's the news? For how long our team will be without a specialist Head Coach. This is unbelievable stuff tbh. Also it's about time we look for a specialist batting Coach and Head Coach separately. I don't understand why BCB always try to compromise Head Coach to be the Batting Coach as like "ek dhile dui pakhi" style
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November 25, 2012, 01:12 AM
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Now this is a problem we immediately need to address. I just don't get the feeling anyone taking notes of what the players and the captain doing wrong. What is Papon doing? Are they just happy with the way things are? Jurgensen shouldn't even be kept as our bowling coach let alone the head coach.
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