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March 25, 2006, 03:51 PM
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Best orthodox spinner in the world
With the rise once again of leg spinners thanks to Abdul Qadir and the advent of genuine doosra bowlers - who is the best old fashioned orthodox spinner in the international game?
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March 25, 2006, 06:32 PM
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i'd say you've probably missed out some. you've missed out saqlain.
there are others, like udal.
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March 25, 2006, 06:34 PM
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but i doubt rafiqe should win. i know he will. bcos he's bdeshi and this a pro-bd site. i think vettori is the best
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March 25, 2006, 10:36 PM
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March 26, 2006, 04:53 AM
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Vettori by a long way.
Saqlain is an offie. So is Udal.
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March 26, 2006, 05:56 AM
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practically every1 up there is an offie, its just they're all left arm, i think. if ur referring to leggies, none of the above r.
4 leggies, i think mushtaq ahmed is class.
obiviously shanewarne, but it dont work dat way
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March 26, 2006, 01:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by jayed
practically every1 up there is an offie, its just they're all left arm, i think. if ur referring to leggies, none of the above r.
4 leggies, i think mushtaq ahmed is class.
obiviously shanewarne, but it dont work dat way
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u need to work on ur english vocabulary
Orthodox spinner is the traditional finger spinners.
warne, nushi, and most leggies are wrist spinners.
Edited on, March 26, 2006, 6:04 PM GMT, by nas.
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March 26, 2006, 01:20 PM
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no thank u, my friend-
mre like u go back 2 ur crummy sw england to learn vocab. unless u think none of the above r offies
donny was sayin saqlain and udal are offspinners.
but practically every1 above are offies, so i corrected him, unless he was mistaken 4 leggies so thats y i said mushi and etc,
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March 26, 2006, 02:41 PM
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Saqlain bowls the doosra hence he is not there.
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March 26, 2006, 04:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Afridi2Belfast
With the rise once again of leg spinners thanks to Abdul Qadir and the advent of genuine doosra bowlers - who is the best old fashioned orthodox spinner in the international game?
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i think u r talking abt left-arm orthodox spinners here.
just orthodox would mean off-spinners ... since there is a right-hand bias is cricket.
but yeah.. at this point of time.. the choice is vettori
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March 26, 2006, 05:19 PM
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An orthodox spinner is an old fashioned FINGER spinner - left or right handed.
A doosra bowler or a leg spinner is an UNORTHODOX bowler.
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March 27, 2006, 09:08 AM
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Originally posted by Afridi2Belfast
An orthodox spinner is an old fashioned FINGER spinner - left or right handed.
A doosra bowler or a leg spinner is an UNORTHODOX bowler.
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I'm afraid there's no such "doosra bowler"
As doosra simply is a delivery which goes the other way. In legspin, such a delivery is called googly. However, there was nth defined for offspinners until Saqlain called his one a "doosra". Hence the name. Nowadays, most off-spinners have it in their armoury. If someone were to bowl doosras consistently, he'd rather be a leg-spinner!
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March 27, 2006, 01:01 PM
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an wats so unorthodox bout doosra?
in every way, in england, they call it 'arm ball' in aussies i dunno.
but googly has been around 4 2 centuries.
and it is used by every legspinner for the past century, if u guyz think abdul kadir, and mushi r not traditional leggies, who r? hey? paul adams?
and THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS 'DOOSRA' BOWLING. its a type of delivery, u cant say there is a yorker bowler, or a bouncer bowler.
doosra is the offspinners googly, it comprosises of using the wrist, yes, but also with fingers.
there aint no doosra.
and vettori is some doosra bowler, infact murali taught him in the world xi-v-aussies how to perfect it.
in matter of the terms,
vettori is the best.
only a idiot would think rafique is.
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March 27, 2006, 05:47 PM
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March 27, 2006, 09:21 PM
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A left arm finger spinner is known as 'left arm authodox'.
A right arm finger spinner is known as 'right arm offbreak'
Afridi2Belfast has thrown us a doosra by including Jeetan Patel, an offie, amongst a list of left arm orthodox bowlers.
One can reasonably assume this is a mistake as Murali or Bhajji are not on the list but perhaps A2B could enlighten us ?
jayed, with your lack of English skills, I think you should be careful when calling anyone 'a idiot'. Correctly, it's an idiot.
An 'arm ball' is not a doosra, in England or anywhere. It's simply a ball that doesn't spin.
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March 28, 2006, 10:04 AM
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March 28, 2006, 10:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by jayed
in matter of the terms,
vettori is the best.
only a idiot would think rafique is.
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If you are so sure, why did you care voting in a poll?
And if you think, only idiots will think Rafique as the best which respect do you offer for the others? Curios of your 'true' class?
Edited on, March 28, 2006, 3:13 PM GMT, by Baundule.
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March 28, 2006, 11:51 AM
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Among the bowlers mentioned in the list, stats speaks loudly. Vettori by miles.
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March 28, 2006, 12:02 PM
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donny, i am writing in 4eely, i dont care bout spelling grammar etc. this is not a school essay i'm writing, is it?
and em, loox like we have found the hypocrite-
QOUTED BY U-
'left arm authodox' well, i swear u spell the last word like this- orthodox? mmmmm.
and arm ball, ok.
a doosra doesn't have 2 spin, does it? no. a googly by mushi doesnt always spin does it?
and dudes, i knew i'd get negative feedback, but rafiq, IN REALITY isnt beta den
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March 28, 2006, 04:37 PM
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jayed u are a tooser,
doosra is bowled so the bowl spin a bowl the opposite way than how a bowler normally spins the ball.
it doosra dont have to spin, why attempt it? u would be better of bowling an arm bowl of quicker one.
it attempted doosra doesnt spin, it because the bowler got it slightly wrong or the pitch isnt assisting.
u comment " a doosra doesn't have 2 spin, does it? no. a googly by mushi doesnt always spin does it?"
its basicly like saying a yorker dont have to pitched at batsman toe, a low full toss would do.
Edited on, March 28, 2006, 9:37 PM GMT, by nas.
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March 29, 2006, 12:47 PM
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well, dosra is a disguised ball, that looks like somthing else, than tryin 2 bowl arm ball
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March 30, 2006, 05:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by jayed
donny, i am writing in 4eely, i dont care bout spelling grammar etc. this is not a school essay i'm writing, is it?
and em, loox like we have found the hypocrite-
QOUTED BY U-
'left arm authodox' well, i swear u spell the last word like this- orthodox? mmmmm.
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Yes, quite right, jayed. It is 'orthodox'. I stand corrected.
However, I wasn't referring to your spelling so 'hypocrite' is a bit harsh.
What is '4eely'
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March 30, 2006, 09:38 AM
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Mohammad Rofique because due to the limited talent he has.
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March 30, 2006, 11:31 AM
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4reely- my friend is a way of saying 'freely'. in nowadays, the text message generation, this is a common lingo.
for instance-
jayed,
74Y3D
and sorry for the hypocrite title, and i didn't know what specifically u were referring 2 since u said 'lack of english skills'.
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