2009 ICC World Cup Qualifying Tournament

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by nzfan
Denmark too surprisingly is full of native danish players, wouldn't of thought that

yeah, which means id root for them as well, but i'm still upset about the cartoon issue.

i think the dutch team is also "native". which is interesting. so the native teams in this tournament are:

kenya
ireland
scotland
uganda
denmark
afghanistan
holland
bermuda

wow, 8 of the 12 teams are composed mostly or purely of native talent. thats impressive. i'm glad these teams got here instead of the expat teams like hong kong etc.

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
Well the Danish cricket team has historically been composed mostly of native players. Thanks to geographical location - much like why Afghanistan play but suck at cricket (so far).

brother, so far afghans have developed at a quicker pace than we have.

5 years ago, afghanistan didn't exist. today they are 2-3 teams away from a world cup berth (and maybe, they might even get it...).

BD was playing ICC trophy for 15-20 years and still was losing to the likes of bermuda, canada, denmark.

we lost to papua new guinea for heaven's sake!

of course that also means we've traveled a huge distance. we have come further than any other cricket team ever. from losing to PNG in early 1980s to beating nearly all G8 sides in 2009. thats quite an achievement.

[Tigers_eye]

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
brother, so far afghans have developed at a quicker pace than we have.

5 years ago, afghanistan didn't exist. today they are 2-3 teams away from a world cup berth (and maybe, they might even get it...).

BD was playing ICC trophy for 15-20 years and still was losing to the likes of bermuda, canada, denmark.

we lost to papua new guinea for heaven's sake!

of course that also means we've traveled a huge distance. we have come further than any other cricket team ever. from losing to PNG in early 1980s to beating nearly all G8 sides in 2009. thats quite an achievement.

You see that is the problem. The faster they rise the more inconsistant they will be. Unless they hire whole bunch of Pakistani players like UAE.

Namibia's training at South African Domestic cricket proved to be fatal. They are on their way to lose their second consecutive match.

[al Furqaan]

maybe, but the namibians are an imposing 4-day side. they are prolly the best FC team out of the associates, maybe barring ireland.

oh don't worry, i know the afghans will struggle against semi top sides. i doubt they have harnessed the skill component of the game, they are relying primarily on athleticism in one of the worlds more unatheltic sports.

skill-wise we are far ahead of them.

[Xavier]

second day results:

Ireland beat Oman by 116 runs
Ireland 285-4 (50.0 overs)
Oman 169 all out (37.3 overs)

Final Scorecard | Commentary

The Netherlands beat Denmark by 7 wickets
Denmark 245-9 (50.0 overs)
The Netherlands 246-3 (43.0 overs)

Final Scorecard | Commentary

Afghanistan beat Bermuda by 60 runs
Afghanistan 239-8 (50.0 overs)
Bermuda 179 all out (49.3 overs)

Final Scorecard | Commentary

Scotland beat Namibia by 72 runs
Scotland 267-6 (50.0 overs)
Namibia 194 all out (44.4 overs)

Final Scorecard

Latest Scores
Canada beat Uganda by 5 wickets
Uganda 231-8 (50 overs, K Kamyuka 85, R Mukasa 42, K Chohan 3-31)
Canada 232-5 (47.0 overs, G Barnett 102*, S Dhaniram 39)
Kenya beat UAE by 9 wickets
UAE 79 (30.1 overs, L Ngoche 6-14)
Kenya 80-1 (12.2 overs, M Ouma 50)

[Xavier]

Another win for Afghanistan, while Kenya fight back to crush UAE.
At the moment I would say Ireland, Netherlands, Kenya and Canada look like the best teams in the tournament, but surprises may happen.
Oman look like being the missing link of the tournament, Nepal would have been a much worthier 3rd asian team in this competition, but the narrow way of WCL left them out of it.

[nzfan]

I think it is a waste of time having the UAE/Canada and Oman in this competition, they have next to no native players so it does nothing to develop cricket in these countries, nepal, papua new guinea etc would of been better choices

[Rabz]

Go Australia..............





oh....wrong thread...




Go the Afghans brothers.
Afghans and the Nepalese are my favourites.

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by nzfan
I think it is a waste of time having the UAE/Canada and Oman in this competition, they have next to no native players so it does nothing to develop cricket in these countries, nepal, papua new guinea etc would of been better choices

well they have large immigrant populations, and if they can play at a high enough level, we can't nor should we strip them. i agree its ridiculous. but at the same time all of those countries qualified for the tournament in the proper way.

i thought nepal would be a strong contender, but they got knocked out way back in WCL division 4. that was the furthest they got, and i think they didn't even make it out of D5. they weren't as strong as we thought. and if they come under increased chinese influence it might hamper their cricket even more.

which is why, i don't support canada, UAE, namibia or oman. i will root for afghanistan, uganda, holland, ireland, scotland, and any other team with majority native players.

[nzfan]

Namibia is full of native players, it used to be a province of South Africa which is why the player names are so similar, but they got independance

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by nzfan
Namibia is full of native players, it used to be a province of South Africa which is why the player names are so similar, but they got independance

well i don't really consider SA, namibia, or the old zimbabwe white players native. its like calling jeetan patel a native kiwi...

but since we accept patel, SA, and the old zimbabwe, then we have to accept namibia for consistency's sake.

[al Furqaan]

huge game for the AFG tonight. if they win this...they will go to the WC.

if they lose, they're only supposed to. but kenya can lose to anyone.

[nzfan]

If thats the case then New Zealand, Australia and the west indies can be counted out of your native teams as we are arent

[Tiger444]

i agree with nzfan here, if we consider native players even in the US then we can say that they are not native..because the true native people are the native Americans, and the same with australia, new zealand etc. and i get you al-furqaan but I don't think it really matters wat ethnicity you are..as long as your a good cricket team it does not matter

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by nzfan
If thats the case then New Zealand, Australia and the west indies can be counted out of your native teams as we are arent

yes, in a historic fashion.

except that all those groups are a majority of the citizens of those countries. so whether they are really native or not, makes little difference. namibian whites are not a majority, but like i said, Saffers are a strong nation, and their team makeup is no different than namibia's, so if the namibians play good cricket, who cares.

in that light teams like UAE and oman should be embraced as well.

[BANFAN]

Originally Posted by nzfan
I think it is a waste of time having the UAE/Canada and Oman in this competition, they have next to no native players so it does nothing to develop cricket in these countries, nepal, papua new guinea etc would of been better choices

Agree. UAE, Canada and Oman really is a waste of time. They have no future. How long can they import players to survive?

[nycpro96]

so, ireland really killing huh

[BANFAN]

Afghan dreams are getting tough.

JOHANNESBURG (AP) -- Kenya beat Afghanistan by 107 runs in Potchefstroom to hand the war-torn country its first defeat in the qualifying tournament for the 2011 World Cup.

Kenya set an imposing total of 282-5 in its 50 overs, with Kennedy Otieno scoring an undefeated century. His 109 came off 136 balls and included 11 fours and a six.

Elsewhere, Canada inflicted a massive 141-run defeat on Namibia in Pretoria to qualify for the Super Eights.

Ireland beat Uganda convincingly by six wickets in Krugersdorp.

Oman, meanwhile, came close to pulling off a major upset when it made a determined effort to chase down Scotland's 274-9 in Johannesburg. And Bermuda beat Denmark comfortably by nine wickets in Vanderbijlpark.

United Arab Emirates edged the Netherlands, winning by two wickets in a tight match at Senwes Park in Potchefstroom.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Originally Posted by nzfan
I think it is a waste of time having the UAE/Canada and Oman in this competition, they have next to no native players so it does nothing to develop cricket in these countries, nepal, papua new guinea etc would of been better choices

Some second generation immigrants in Canada are more Canadian than the average Canadian, so it's unfair to have them sit out based on the existence of epidermal pigment.

[Rifat]

Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
Some second generation immigrants in Canada are more Canadian than the average Canadian, so it's unfair to have them sit out based on the existence of epidermal pigment.

it's all because of Russel Peters

[Xavier]

Update!

Match Results & Scorecards
Group A


GROUP A P W T NR L Pts NRR
Ireland 3 3 0 0 0 6 2.01
Canada 3 3 0 0 0 6 1.74
Scotland 3 2 0 0 1 4 0.13
Uganda 3 1 0 0 2 2 -0.71
Namibia 3 0 0 0 3 0 -1.47
Oman 3 0 0 0 3 0 -1.52

• Ireland beat Scotland by 7 wickets, Willowmoore Park, Benoni, 1 April. [Scorecard]
• Uganda beat Namibia by 6 wickets, Stan Friedman Oval, Krugersdorp, 1 April. [Scorecard]
• Canada beat Oman by 103 runs, LC de Villiers Oval, Pretoria, 1 April. [Scorecard]
• Scotland beat Namibia by 72 runs, LC de Villiers Oval, Pretoria, 2 April. [Scorecard]
• Ireland beat Oman by 116 runs, Stan Friedman Oval, Krugersdorp, 2 April. [Scorecard]
• Canada beat Uganda by 5 wickets, University of Witwatersrand, Johannesburg, 2 April. [Scorecard]
• Ireland beat Uganda by 6 wickets, Stan Friedman Oval, Krugersdorp, 4 April. [Scorecard]
• Scotland beat Oman by 9 runs, University of Witwatersrand, Johannesburg, 4 April. [Scorecard]
• Canada beat Namibia by 141 runs runs, LC de Villiers Oval, Pretoria, 4 April. [Scorecard]

Match Results & Scorecards
Group B


GROUP B P W T NR L Pts NRR
Kenya 3 2 0 0 1 4 1.99
Netherlands 3 2 0 0 1 4 0.35
Afghanistan 3 2 0 0 1 4 -0.20
UAE 3 2 0 0 1 4 -1.07
Bermuda 3 1 0 0 2 2 -0.18
Denmark 3 0 0 0 3 0 -0.75

• Netherlands beat Kenya by 7 wickets, Senwes Park, Potchefstroom, 1 April. [Scorecard]
• UAE beat Bermuda by 4 wickets, Absa Puk Oval, Potchefstroom, 1 April. [Scorecard]
• Afghanistan beat Denmark by 5 wickets, Isak Steyl Stadium, Vanderbijlpark, 1 April. [Scorecard]
• Afghanistan beat Bermuda by 60 runs, Senwes Park, Potchefstroom, 2 April. [Scorecard]
• Netherlands beat Denmark by 7 wickets, Absa Puk Oval, Potchefstroom, 2 April. [Scorecard]
• Kenya beat UAE by 9 wickets, Isak Steyl Stadium, Vanderbijlpark, 2 April. [Scorecard]
• UAE beat Netherlands by 2 wickets, Senwes Park, Potchefstroom, 4 April. [Scorecard]
• Bermuda beat Denmark by 9 wickets, Isak Steyl Stadium, Vanderbijlpark, 4 April. [Scorecard]
• Kenya beat Afghanistan by 107 runs, Absa Puk Oval, Potchefstroom, 4 April. [Scorecard]

[Xavier]

UAE beating Netherlands was quite a big surprise, and it looks like Danmark and Bermuda are the 2 teams to be eliminated in Group B.
Namibia are the big disappointment in Group A, as they were expected to perform well after reaching Intercontinental Cup final (losing to Ireland).

Tomorrow is the 4th day of play!

[al Furqaan]

couple intersting things to realize:

Cricket Europe website is very good. in fact, a more appropriate name for it would be Cricket Associates, because they cover all non-Test teams' exploits fairly equally.

CE also has their own OD rankings tables for ALL associate and affiliate teams based on the ICC ODI rankings. interestingly, kenya don't even rank in the top 3, despite winning WCL D1 championship 2 years ago.

[Purbasha T]

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
couple intersting things to realize:

Cricket Europe website is very good. in fact, a more appropriate name for it would be Cricket Associates, because they cover all non-Test teams' exploits fairly equally.

CE also has their own OD rankings tables for ALL associate and affiliate teams based on the ICC ODI rankings. interestingly, kenya don't even rank in the top 3, despite winning WCL D1 championship 2 years ago.

lol, racist!

[nzfan]

UAE hammering Denmark into the dust currently 296/3 off 41 overs


Good to see it is the dubai born player doing it (164 off 117 balls with 17 fours and 8 sixes)