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March 19, 2011, 08:04 AM
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i would like to know who are those 5 pro siddions guys
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March 19, 2011, 08:18 AM
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Times up for Siddonse. He has been given reasonable time and occasion to show his skill and he has failed miserably in final exam. Its time to bring someone new and I always prefer South African coaches.
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March 19, 2011, 09:06 AM
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If West Indies had taken 20 runs more, Siddons would have been a hero
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March 19, 2011, 09:08 AM
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what is this after every WC we keep changing coach. players. this is just waste of money and effort and no plan for success.
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March 19, 2011, 09:13 AM
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Was a pro now an anti. He must go.
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I cannot believe this
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March 19, 2011, 09:15 AM
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I was always "anti" but now I'm "pro" ... woted for you Sid.
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March 19, 2011, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Sohel NR
I was always "anti" but now I'm "pro" ... woted for you Sid.
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March 19, 2011, 09:20 AM
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Innowation in the face of adwersity is vat Siddhuns does best Harsha. Wote for him, you wote for develwopment. This is not the time to abandon SidWision.
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March 19, 2011, 09:27 AM
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its confirmed....he is going.
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দেশে যাবেন? না ছুটি নেই। অস্ট্রেলিয়া আসবে, অনুশীলন করাতে হবে।
দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকার কাছে বাজে হার দিয়ে গ্রুপ পর্ব থেকে বিশ্বকাপ অভিযান শেষ করেছে বাংলাদেশ। যদিও বিশ্বকাপ শেষ হবে ২ এপ্রিল ফাইনালের মধ্যদিয়ে। এরপর চার এপ্রিল তিন ম্যাচের একদিনের সিরিজ খেলতে বাংলাদেশ আসবে অস্ট্রেলিয়া। এই সময়ে অনর্থক ঢাকায় পড়ে থাকার কোন মানে হয় না। কিন্তু সে সুযোগ জেমি সিডন্সকে দিচ্ছে না বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট বোর্ড (বিসিবি)।
জেমির ছুটি হবে স্থায়ী ভাবে অস্ট্রেলিয়ার বিপক্ষে একদিনের সিরিজ শেষে। বাংলাদেশে সাড়ে তিন বছরের চাকরি জীবনের যবনিকা হবে এই অস্ট্রেলিয়ানের। এনিয়ে কোন সন্দেহ নেই। বিসিবি পরিচালক ও বিশ্বকাপ স্থানীয় আয়োজক কমিটির আহ্বায়ক দেওয়ান শফিউল আরেফিন এই তথ্য দিয়েছেন। তিনি বলেন,“অন্যদের কি হবে জানি না। তবে জেমি সিডন্সকে রাখা হবে না।”
কথায় কথায় ভেতরের কথাও ফাঁস করে দেন শফিউল আরেফিন। “বাংলাদেশ দলটাকে একটা বলয়ের ভেতরে আটকে ফেলেছেন জেমি। যাচ্ছেতাই করেছেন। তাকে তো রাখার প্রশ্নই উঠে না।”
জাতীয় দলের প্রধান কোচ হিসেবে সিডন্স চাকরি নেন ২০০৭ সালের শেষের দিকে। বাংলাদেশ দল নিয়ে প্রথম সফর করেন নিউজিল্যান্ডে। ওই সফর আশানুরূপ না হলেও ধীরেই উন্নতি করে বাংলাদেশ। যার সুফল পেয়েছে ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজ, জিম্বাবুয়ে এবং দেশের মাঠে নিউজিল্যান্ডের বিপক্ষে। ত্রিদেশীয় সিরিজের ফাইনালে খেলাও বড় সাফল্যের মধ্যে পড়ে। এছাড়া ইংল্যান্ডের মাঠে ইংল্যান্ডকে হারিয়ে দেওয়ার ঘটনাও ঘটেছে সিডন্সের সময়ে। বাংলাদেশ দল সাফল্য পাওয়াতেই ২০১১ সালের জুন পর্যন্ত তার চুক্তির মেয়াদ বাড়ানো হয়।
ব্যর্থতার পাল্লাও ভারি। টি-টোয়েন্টি বিশ্বকাপে প্রথম রাউন্ড থেকে বিদায় নেওয়া। ২০০৮ সালে দেশের মাঠে দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকার কাছে টেস্ট এবং একদিনের সিরিজে বাজে ভাবে ধবলধোলাই হওয়া। ওই বছর পাকিস্তান সফরে পাঁচ ম্যাচ একদিনের সিরিজে বাংলাদেশ দলের বিপর্যয়। অস্ট্রেলিয়া সফরে তিন ম্যাচ একদিনের সিরিজে ধবলধোলাই। আরো অনেক ঘটনা আছে।
কোচকে রাখার বিষয়ে অধিনায়ক সাকিব আল হাসানের কাছেও তার মতামত জানতে চাওয়া হয়েছিলো। অধিনায়ক বিষয়টিকে সরাসরি বোর্ডের ওপরে চাপিয়ে দিয়েছেন।
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March 19, 2011, 09:35 AM
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Bring another Takla and blame him for our own mistakes ! Gadha diye to ar ghorar kaj kora jay na !
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March 19, 2011, 09:36 AM
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I don't think changing coach will do anything much.
We need BCB & our selectors to look for more naturally skilleed talent in every corner of BD.
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I agree!!!
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March 19, 2011, 09:36 AM
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Let Siddons go. He has not shown me enough as a Head Coach. Perhaps he can convince someone to give him a batting-coach job. But, I think he can be a good salesman or politician. His approach did not work. Look at the results. But, he managed to "sell" it for 4 years. That takes some skills.
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March 19, 2011, 09:37 AM
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voted for
"Miraz bhai is anti-siddons"
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March 19, 2011, 09:38 AM
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@The Nadster: In all seriousness dude, Tutul scares me a lot more than easy riding opportunists like Sid. While guys like Sid stagnate growth, the Tutul-types can destroy it.
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March 19, 2011, 09:39 AM
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Can someone translate this please?
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March 19, 2011, 09:42 AM
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Which batsmen improved under his personal improvement plan? Is Tamim a better batsman today than he was 4 years ago? Perhaps. I am not sure. Only Shakib and Imrul showed improvement. But, much of it might be due to personal initiatives and not due to JS. Even if we give credit to JS for these two, everyone else either remained the same or regressed.
However, to me his cardinal sin was favoritism. If he was not engaged in it, perhaps he would have tried to solve our middle-order/late-hitting/wicketkeeping woes. But, that would have meant he had to drop his favorite boys. That is not acceptable. Is it?
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March 19, 2011, 09:46 AM
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Considering the fact that Sid's departure is inevitable, I want to add that sack Loitta & gong as well and bring back Saber (I am no BAL or BNP fan, btw) to reorganize our cricket infrastructure from root level.
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March 19, 2011, 09:49 AM
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Quote:
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Considering the fact that Sid's departure is inevitable, I want to add that sack Loitta & gong as well and bring back Saber (I am no BAL or BNP fan, btw) to reorganize our cricket infrastructure from root level.
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Given our vindictive political leadership, pigs will fly before this happens. Would be great for BD cricket, if it happened though.
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March 19, 2011, 09:52 AM
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We already know what our strengths and weaknesses are. - Despite some struggles, our opening pair is set.
- We have one good middle-order batsman, Shakib. If we want to find whether Riyad would cut at 3 or 4, we have some time to do it. Zunaed has been given ample opportunities and has not shown that he can do the job. SN should be given some more opportunities to see whether he can be a solution at 3 and 4.
- Mushfiqur has to go. The only things he does well on the field are stamping and chirping. Even if Jahurul drops his average below 30, he will be an improvement as a keeper.
- We need to do something about 6 and 7. There are many options. Try Shabbir, Hom, or any other promising youngster.
- I cannot complain much about the improvement in bowling. Our matches were won by the bowlers. Keep working with the pacers. Try to develop a good legspinner. They can be valuable and add variety to the attack. Try your best to keep Ian Pont.
- Let Siddons go. He has not shown me enough as a Head Coach. Perhaps he can convince someone to give him a batting-coach job.
- Hire someone with a cricketing brain and a good, well-thought approach.
- Let us win the 2015 WC. Go Tigers!
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March 20, 2011, 12:19 AM
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They need to hire a batting coach with more experience in international cricket. We need to improve at pretty much every department. Only Tamim, Shakib and Razzak are the only players that we can call class (there's Mashrafe too but he needs to come out of injury first). Tamim still has plenty of room for improvement however, mainly with his shot selection. Imrul can definitely grow into batsman that can play throughout the innings if he can develop his technique (playing through the gaps, manuevering the ball, taking 1s and 2s etc). Shafiul also has potential but that toothpick needs to eat more and work out and he needs to develop a few more deliveries and consistency. The rest are only a burden on the team right now. Mushfiq should play only tests. They should watch other teams and try to learn a thing or two, see how they approach different situations. Bottom line: Siddons' time is up, it doesn't seem like there's anything else he can do for the team.
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Anti or pro is a hard ball? What I see that he did not deliver compared to the facilities and monetary supplies he is provided. If you ask a professional recruiter the answer would be that was too much money paid for the benefits achieved. He is overly paid and once he cemented his position as HC he did not care much to labour and hardship, for example, avoiding to bring in talents and help them to get accustomed to this level. He escaped his duties through the loopholes that are nicely maintained by our unprofessional board.
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March 20, 2011, 01:34 AM
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Ar kichu ki bolte hobe? 10:48 Now
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March 20, 2011, 05:28 AM
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Two earlier Siddons poll:
http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=35447 (Pro 54, Anti 9, on the edge 16)
http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=34571 (Pro 57, Anti 12)
June 21, 2010: http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=33727
July 20, 2010: http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=33971 (Pro 20, Anti 52)
July 12, 2010: http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=33891 (Pro 46, Anti 26)
March 8, 2010: http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=32694
June 8, 2009: http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=29878 (Pro 53, Anti 18)
September 7, 2008: http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=27707 (Pro 52, Anti 14)
July 8, 2008: http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=27238 (Pro 62, Anti 16)
November 1, 2008: http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=28298 (Pro 44, Anti 6)
So, one can see how short-sighted the BC members have been regarding Siddons.
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March 20, 2011, 05:39 AM
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i am not a blind follower or emotional.as anti or pro..but what i have seen he has done good for bangladesh cricket.maybe its results has not reaped.but they have not gone in vain either,and with time his hardwork will come up.so for me i give him a good vote,which means pro
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March 20, 2011, 06:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Baundule
Two earlier Siddons poll:
http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=35447 (Pro 54, Anti 9, on the edge 16)
http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=34571 (Pro 57, Anti 12)
June 21, 2010: http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=33727
July 20, 2010: http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=33971 (Pro 20, Anti 52)
July 12, 2010: http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=33891 (Pro 46, Anti 26)
March 8, 2010: http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=32694
June 8, 2009: http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=29878 (Pro 53, Anti 18)
September 7, 2008: http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=27707 (Pro 52, Anti 14)
July 8, 2008: http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=27238 (Pro 62, Anti 16)
November 1, 2008: http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=28298 (Pro 44, Anti 6)
So, one can see how short-sighted the BC members have been regarding Siddons.
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good observation
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