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February 26, 2010, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sohel NR
I welcome this thread.
Mohammad Shahzada has been one of the most consistent performers in domestic cricket for the past 4-5 years. He's an accurate bowler who can bat well. Not as aggressive as Talha (also an accurate seamer), he lacks the type of variety we see in Rasel and Talha, but that can be taught. Young guys like this, he's ONLY 23, are ideally suited for the shorter versions and need to be developed through the A Team.
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Thanks a lot brother, I agree he should get more opportunities with the A team.
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rubel is going to be kicked out...
1) After claiming 250 ODI wickets & 200 Test wickets
2) After hurting 100 more batsman with his vicious bouncers
3) Touching 150 kph umpteenth times
4) winning us 25 matches single-handedly, and
5) becoming an icon.... from teknaaf to tetulia
matter of only 15 years....
see you then..
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At an average of 189756418574.589789 and an economy rate of 15.77?
Perhaps you Rubel fans should get married to him, he can never become a good ODI bowler let alone tests. He can't hurt any batsmen with 140ish pace, you need to be 150+ consistently to hurt batsmen and he's gonna lose all the pace he's got now after just 2 years. What a wannabe slinger..
BTW how many times has he touched the 150 kph mark? Last time I remember him doing that was in the World T20 where his performance was just bullshit.
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February 26, 2010, 11:36 PM
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Thanks a lot brother, I agree he should get more opportunities with the A team.
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I think he said young guys like hime, but not necessarily him.
Khalek bhai - of the young crop of bowlers now the the national leagues and other domestics, where would you rate Shahazada ?
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February 26, 2010, 11:39 PM
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Khalek bhai, I think Shahazada should marry Rubel and live happily after.
Who do you think will be the guy in that union - I bet all bets are on Rubel.
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February 26, 2010, 11:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jisaan
rubel is going to be kicked out...
1) After claiming 250 ODI wickets & 200 Test wickets
2) After hurting 100 more batsman with his vicious bouncers
3) Touching 150 kph umpteenth times
4) winning us 25 matches single-handedly, and
5) becoming an icon.... from teknaaf to tetulia
matter of only 15 years....
see you then..
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not a bad answer. in fact, the best answer
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February 27, 2010, 12:27 AM
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Good that Shahzada is coming up but why we have to throw Rubel now?
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February 27, 2010, 12:57 AM
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Speed and accuracy are not mutually exclusive when it comes to fast bowling. You need both to succeed at the highest level where we find ourselves.
Within the Bangladeshi context (we ain't the Top 8):
There's room for accurate slowish bowlers (mid 120s to 130), especially in the shorter versions, who can contain the opposition with accurate line and length, and occasional but effectively scripted variety: Rasel and Shahzada.
There's room for quick (mid 30s to mid 140s) and aggressive bowlers who can go for runs but also get wickets. These guys tend to be more useful in tests where it is harder to score runs because of the absence of bowling/fielding restrictions that favor batsmen in the shorter versions: Rubel, Shuhash (Shafiul), Shubhashish and Shumon Shaha.
There's room for aggressive and accurate bowlers with so-so speed (low to upper mid 130s) but who can bowl to the field set for them: Talha and on occasion, Rajib (Shahadat) and Sajid.
There are also guys of variable speed like Farhad Reza, Robin, Zia, Milon and Nazmul who are capable of giving you 4 excellent overs for T20Is.
Then there's MaMu, just don't let him bowl in the death overs.
Most of our guys are too young to be written off. Our focus should be on giving them great bowling coaches and sporting pitches, not on these absurd X for Y and Y for Z games.
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February 27, 2010, 04:45 AM
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^^ Good post Sohel bhai. I'm interested in knowing more about Sumon and Mr. Roy. how're they goign this year?
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February 27, 2010, 08:30 AM
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Khalek vai, I bet I have better bowling avg. in para games than Sahzada's NCL avg. Should the selectors replace Sahzada and give me a chance in NCL team?
BTW, I am a better batsman
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February 27, 2010, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by khalek
Thanks a lot brother, I agree he should get more opportunities with the A team.
At an average of 189756418574.589789 and an economy rate of 15.77?
Perhaps you Rubel fans should get married to him, he can never become a good ODI bowler let alone tests. He can't hurt any batsmen with 140ish pace, you need to be 150+ consistently to hurt batsmen and he's gonna lose all the pace he's got now after just 2 years. What a wannabe slinger..
BTW how many times has he touched the 150 kph mark? Last time I remember him doing that was in the World T20 where his performance was just bullshit.
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Why dont u marry Shahazada then?
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February 27, 2010, 08:57 AM
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dude for a guy who i think started in 2008 first class, rubel has come a ong way very quickly, and yeah, i havn't seen shehzada, but rubel has raw pace that now no other bangladeshi paceman has shown on trv. and he just ook 5 wkts against neq zealand on a pitch lifeless for bowlers, what more do you want man, tell him to come in palce of shahadat hossain then
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February 27, 2010, 08:58 AM
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ho and just for the record, i feel players like mahbubul alam and dolar mahmud are not used properly at all in tests and odi's respectively
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He hardly gets a chance in the Rajshahi team nowadays....and u want him to be in the NT team?
JOKE? huh?!?!?!
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Originally Posted by khalek
Thanks a lot brother, I agree he should get more opportunities with the A team.
At an average of 189756418574.589789 and an economy rate of 15.77?
Perhaps you Rubel fans should get married to him, he can never become a good ODI bowler let alone tests. He can't hurt any batsmen with 140ish pace, you need to be 150+ consistently to hurt batsmen and he's gonna lose all the pace he's got now after just 2 years. What a wannabe slinger..
BTW how many times has he touched the 150 kph mark? Last time I remember him doing that was in the World T20 where his performance was just bullshit.
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Every other thing apart, please, be rest assured...
My tastes are absolutely different from yours (assuming you are a Mr.)
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February 27, 2010, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by nadim 98
He hardly gets a chance in the Rajshahi team nowadays....and u want him to be in the NT team?
JOKE? huh?!?!?!
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and he had lost his place in Mohammedan line-up.
perhaps that's the last option for him to play which is the least probable one, as well
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Khalek...are you Shehzada by any chance? Enough of the animosity. Start playing better to get a spot in the team son !
not bad imagination...
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But MD Sharif has more wicket!
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so is Talha and 100 others!
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February 27, 2010, 10:21 AM
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He has done extremely well against Zim A team in 2006 in two 4 day matches.
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and this is Twenty Ten!
and he is struggling to find a place in a DPL team (Mohammedan)
and he is struggling to find a place in an NCL team (Rajshahi)
.... things are getting worse for him now-a-days
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February 27, 2010, 11:46 AM
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Most of our guys are too young to be written off. Our focus should be on giving them great bowling coaches and sporting pitches, not on these absurd X for Y and Y for Z games.
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Sohel NR bhai - why can we not get good coaches for the age groups ? It is just so baffling.
Can we not overpay an Australian academy coach and keep him with us for 1 year ?
Or just bring over some notable names from other countries for shorter stints ?
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February 27, 2010, 12:35 PM
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Rubel is a rare find. Admit it Khalek. However, I happen to agree that we are pushing him too hard. His follow-through scares me. It seems as if he is falling of a cliff. This is recipe for premature damage to ligaments and joints. His action should be fixed before he is given the extended duty in test matches. We have a thin talent pool for high octane pace bowler. Lets not mess it up.
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Joke of the day......why we read and go through this kinda threads?
Mr Khalek you should be National selector......
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March 5, 2010, 08:28 AM
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Hi guys
Rubel Hossain 6 0 62 0 10.33 (1w)
His ODI average has gone up to 45 I believe, any guesses about the economy rate? :p
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March 5, 2010, 08:36 AM
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He's got the worst career economy rate for a bowler who's bowled 600+ balls.
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March 6, 2010, 12:10 AM
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Guys like Rasel, Talha and Shahzada will continue to make the case for accuracy over speed in the shorter versions of cricket.
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He's got the worst career economy rate for a bowler who's bowled 600+ balls.
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u r a bit wrong, he is second, behind chamu chibhabha
http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/...s;type=bowling
also shafiul has currently worse economy rate than rubel. so when shafiul reaches 600 balls he may also go over rubel
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March 6, 2010, 01:33 AM
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anyway.... MD SHAHZADA is playing for rajshahi.... so everybody will have a look on how good he is.
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March 6, 2010, 01:59 AM
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Yeah Rajshahi are batting atm, we'll see when he bowls later.
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