How long can we carry Bashar, the burden?

Baundule · #1 May 10, 2007, 06:48 AM

Today it was a very good display of batting. First by Tamim and Golla and then by Sakib and Ashraful. Aftab and Rafique also contributed well. So, even after another duck of the captain, we reached 250.

I strongly believe, this was a defendable score. We had India 5 down so early and still they won the match. Most of us would call it a matter of umpiring fault; but that's very common and we have to live with that.

IMO, it was the captain again, with his field placement and rotation of the bowlers that costed the match. Now, this is nothing new. Throughout the world cup, we have seen what Sir Habib can do. As a captain one must be innovative, one must be thoughful enough to maintain the pressure, when on top. In stead he lets it slip away all the time. This is happening over and over again. I am pretty sick of seeing this. How long does it take for the selectors to understand the fact that we can no longer afford carrying a captain, who actually aids the opponent letting the team down and yes, ALWAYS.

knightrider357 · #2 May 10, 2007, 06:51 AM

i think its about time... the longer we wait... the more matches we will be losing due to his poor captaincy

Baundule · #3 May 10, 2007, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by knightrider357
i think its about time... the longer we wait... the more matches we will be losing due to his poor captaincy

It really hurts, if a captain loses the match for us. What the hell do we expect from him? The very basic common cricket sense. And he disappoints us again and again.

CricFanBD · #4 May 10, 2007, 06:54 AM

I don't want to see Bashar in the ODI team...but BCB wants I think...and there are some Bashar Lovers...they want him...

sagar · #5 May 10, 2007, 06:56 AM

Why doesn't he just QUIT ??? Nobody wants him in the team anymore......

Protic · #6 May 10, 2007, 07:04 AM

MMMM may be 2 more matches...and Bashar is done.

cricket_pagol · #7 May 10, 2007, 07:08 AM

If things go like this... bashar will have to end his career very soon

Baundule · #8 May 10, 2007, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cricket_pagol
If things go like this... bashar will have to end his career very soon

That will be a very bad thing happening towards a quality player. Even after today's duck, I dont have strong feeling against Bashar the batsman. But Bashar the captain is a horrible mess and the selectors are responsible for all these:

* retaining Bashar as captain
* in that way, ruining his batting

He is very much mentally weak now. He definitely needs a REST.

Sumon77 · #9 May 10, 2007, 07:15 AM

he should take rest for the next 2 matches and declare his ODI retirement after this series.

cricket_pagol · #10 May 10, 2007, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Baundule
That will be a very bad thing happening towards a quality player. Even after today's duck, I dont have strong feeling against Bashar the batsman. But Bashar the captain is a horrible mess and the selectors are responsible for all these:

* retaining Bashar as captain
* in that way, ruining his batting

He is a very much mentally weak now. He definitely needs a REST.

I was not too upset about his OUT today even though it was a horrible way of getting out. His captaincy lacks creativity... that's never gonna change

Morpheous · #11 May 10, 2007, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cricket_pagol
I was not too upset about his OUT today even though it was a horrible way of getting out. His captaincy lacks creativity... that's never gonna change

How could you say you are not upset about his out??....When everybody scored how u score a "Mudi" /specially try to going over top....just pathetic.

Hablar din sesh.....he is OUTTT

BD-Shardul · #12 May 10, 2007, 09:05 AM

Bashar will bounce back very soon.

fwullah · #13 May 10, 2007, 10:42 AM

Ashraful will not be any better captain than Bashar. He could be worst.

Baundule · #14 May 10, 2007, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BD-Shardul
Bashar will bounce back very soon.

As a batsman, yes, possible.
As a captain, never.

Baundule · #15 May 10, 2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by fwullah
Ashraful will not be any better captain than Bashar. He could be worst.

Yes. I also don't think Ashraful can be a better choice. Then who? I don't know the answer. But Bashar is bad for sure. And it's a high priority task to give him a break.

Dhakablues · #16 May 10, 2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by fwullah
Ashraful will not be any better captain than Bashar. He could be worst.

With that, do you stick around with the demonstrated 'worst' of Hablu or the could be one that is sheer speculation?

istiak · #17 May 10, 2007, 11:07 AM

I know Bashar is not doing well. but do we really have an alternative at this moment? Somebody mention one name and see the padamonium on this forum.

Baundule · #18 May 10, 2007, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by istiak
I know Bashar is not doing well. but do we really have an alternative at this moment? Somebody mention one name and see the padamonium on this forum.

That was a question before the world cup. Now during the world cup, he has been a 'demonstrated failure'. So, the first thing is, he must not be the captain. Who else? That is another question. Let us try someone else.

As an example, how about Sakib? What worse he can do compared to Bashar?

Fazal · #19 May 10, 2007, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BD-Shardul
Bashar will bounce back very soon.

I can see that from the scorecared that he bounced back to the ground safely. But when was he bounced up in sky in between (now and last year)? Was it in practice match?

Murad · #20 May 10, 2007, 01:14 PM

aajke or jonnei amra harlam...
man.. kokhono ore attacking hoite dekhina..... jokhon attack kora dorkar o kore.. o defense kore..

abar shei eta mante o chaina.. bole ki dhoi erokom maare.. tai amra boundery te rakhsi fielders der. but we were not defensive

Yasin · #21 May 10, 2007, 01:35 PM

Yeah..we definitely need someone to replace him...probably someone who can bat and definitely bowl a vit..we desperately need a sixth bowler/ part time bowler

jinglenuts · #22 May 10, 2007, 01:52 PM

he can't b replaced as his last series is goin on. right now jus support him instead of blaming. yes his filding placement was not sencible 2day. buh i hope he gets his score in d upumming maches. and captaincy might b very difficult thing which he tried his best 2 do. from this WC he's been doing kinda bad management.

FagunerAgun · #23 May 10, 2007, 01:56 PM

Habla is a true and growing liability for the whole BD team.
But the truth is we don't have his replacement yet with a very good lip services.

chucker · #24 May 10, 2007, 01:56 PM

There are two types of stupid people in the world-- stupids who know how stupid they are and the stupids who dont know about their stupidity. This second group of stupidity is very dangerous. Basher is second kind of stupid who has been single handedly ruining our chances to win.

Murad · #25 May 10, 2007, 02:05 PM

The Bangladesh captain, who many believe has hardly any reason of continuing his one-day career, was completely exposed as a defensive captain when the situation demanded improvisation from him to make up for the absence of pace spearhead Mashrafe.

Putting only four fielders inside the ring instead of piling on the pressure ended in comforting the match winning pair who banked on Bashar's lack of killer instinct.

So, understandably he was the man in the receiving end at the post-match briefing but the pale-faced Bangladesh skipper was not ready to take any blame rather he thought that Dhoni made all the difference by playing a fantastic knock.

"No, we were not defensive. It is very difficult for many team to stop Dhoni that's why we thought that it would be better not to allow him big shots," he answered surprising the audience.

"Our main target was to pick up wickets but unfortunately our spinners were not as successful as in the previous few matches. But I don't want to blame them. You should understand that India batted well to win the match," he said.

The question was also raised, interestingly by an Indian journalist, about why his side's body language was negative when the match was in their control.

"From outside it might have looked different but inside we didn't feel something like that," he replied.

Bashar, however, admitted that his fielders missed some vital run out chances.

"Definitely I felt the absence of Mashrafe but someday you should play without your strike bowler. Yes, we put up a very good total on the board to create a chance but ultimately everything did not go in our favour," he said.